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Wow, what a cherry car Jon. I remember reading the story of your 2016 accident and I am so glad to hear that you are once again getting behind the wheel of a Porsche. I wish you all the best with both your health and the new car. Please give us your driving impressions once you take delivery of the car and get some time behind the wheel.

 

That is super clean! Enter it in a concours event before you get her dirty...

 

Congratulations ...I wish you the best!

 

I agree on the Cup1’s. They were designed by American Dick Soderberg. He was my immediate boss at Porsche. He was an incredibly talented individual. He came from Opel in 1969 with Tony Lapine, Wolfgang Mobius and Peter Reisinger. Dick’s first design job at Porsche was the body of the 908/3. He designed many Porsche race car bodies including the 935 with Norbert Singer. He led the 964 exterior design, 959 exterior design and 993 exterior design. You can see Dick in these images:


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Congrats on the 964. Holt always has nice examples.

I have a 964 myself and love it!

 

Holt also found my 997, which has been a fantastic car. Fingers crossed I'll stumble into a 964 one of these days.

 

It’s been said before, but deserves to be said again. Congratulations! Enjoy your new 964, and drive it in good health!

 

A big Congratulations!!

I had a triple black 1993 C2 cabriolet- it still had under 30K miles when I sold it back in 2010 to buy a 360. There were fewer 92-94 911s made due to the economy and cost of these cars (mine had a $77K windowsticker price in 1993 dollars!) but I love the updates to the wheels and rearview mirrors that came in '92.

I'm looking at a scan of the window sticker from my old car- the cup 1 wheels (called the "17 inch light alloy wheel") were a $1,378 option and I was so glad the original buyer got them- the "turbo wheels" look so nice, and I always liked them more than the cup 2's on the 993 or the narrower standard but similar looking wheel for 92-94 (not that the standard 92-94 wheel is bad looking either, just not as nice as the turbo wheels..)

After a while on the dark side (360, then a 355 spider)- I was itching to get back to a classic 911 (and lower repair bills!), and this winter picked up an 89 911 cabriolet. It's like going back home- the smells [engine, interior, smell of the (feeble) A/C, smell of the heater] , feel, sounds etc brought be right back to the '87 targa I sold way back in 1999.

The 964 is a great compromise of a sports car but with modern touches that will make it perfect for you. Power assisted steering, modern HVAC (that actually cools the car when you need A/C), a larger torquier motor, more modern suspension & improved aerodynamics vs the '89 and earlier 911s, etc- but still has the classic big fenders Also ABS, airbags and yes an option for an automatic.

Best of luck with it, and for so many reasons I am sure you are anxiously awaiting it's arrival!

-Andrew

 

I've heard that a properly set up 915 is very nice to drive- I don't want to rag on that gearbox as some people love them and have them set up correctly...My first Porsche was a used '78 targa. Very balky 1-2 upshift and 3-2 downshift. Double clutch etc didn't help much and wasn't something I wanted to do anyway. After a year or two I spent a couple thousand to get the transmission rebuilt, with new synchros etc. It was a ton of money for me at the time, and yet- it was still not smooth to drive after the rebuild. Maybe they didn't set up the transmission correctly? (It was a Porsche-only mechanic that did the rebuild). Could have just been my car, but I promised myself that when I had the money I'd upgrade to an '87-89. About a year or two out of college I was able to sell the 78 and get the 87 targa (the 87 only had 30K miles on it when I bought it in the mid 90's)- it was a really nice example and I remember I paid $22,500 and sold the '78 for $10,500. So much nicer to drive.. I sold the 87 in 1999 (@40K miles and got $26,500- drove the car for 4 years for free but of course the car would be worth much more had I kept it ) to make way for a 1990 convertible 6-speed corvette- after about 2 years of that, I really wanted to get a 911 again, thus the '93 964.

The 964 transmission is upgraded still from the 3.2 cars- the shift action of the 964 was accurately described in one of the period magazines as similar to the movement of a fine shotgun mechanism. The 964 had a great shift feel, but now I'm back to the older 3.2 generation and am very happy with it. It shifts very nicely, and the car has ~106K miles on it. It's also a factory wide body ("M941" option), which is very special to me. The look of it with the flares and obnoxious 80's tail is exciting to look at just like my former Ferraris were (to me anyway).

Please update us when you get your car. I’m excited for you and would love to hear what it’s like for you to finally be driving a “classic” (yet modernized just enough) sports car again!

-Andrew

 

I meant my car has the factory M491 "turbo look" option...

I also meant to comment I think you did the right thing with an auto 964 (or auto 993 would have been great too, but I personally love the original fenders). A sportomatic would sort of scare me in 2021 if parts were ever needed for repairs, and that would be a much more primative car to drive than the 4-speed tiptronic in the 964!!

 

Hey Jon - How are the first days with your new 964 going?

 

To borrow a line from the movies: I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship

 

Gorgeous car, congrats Jon!
I wish you many happy and safe miles.

 

Congratulations Jon!Use this car in the best of health!I have a 93 RS America and hope to keep it forever.

 

Great stuff BF, now I have a reason to visit this forum.

 

Great....enjoy it as often as you can.

 

Jon- you did almost the same thing I did with my car- there was a star crack in the windshield (I knew about when purchasing the car), so I had the local Porsche restoration shop (Paterek Brothers) replace the windshield (& rubber gasket). My car had a 1990's aftermarket alpine radio (but stock speakers), but I bought a restored original Blaupunkt radio (from Creative Car Audio in Brea CA). I'll hardly ever use the radio since the car isn't a daily driver & I like to just listen to the motor- I changed it to just to bring the car back to stock. And like you I had the car serviced (valves adjusted, alignment, brake fluid flush, etc). Just trying to make the car "right" for me

For your 964, do you know if they changed the small belt inside the dual distributor? If not, you may want to have that done next time the car is in (if you don't have a record of it ever being done- not a huge cost..). Hope to see some more pics of your car!

Here's the radio bought- 80's technology- ha!:
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