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Discussion in 'Collectables, Literature, & Models' started by lil squid, Jun 9, 2008.

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  1. bloomberg

    bloomberg Formula Junior

    Mar 7, 2011
    564
    We’re being screwed, just a reprint because there’s demand for the title. And for more than twice the original price. They should stuff em!
     
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  2. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
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    Jun 22, 2004
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    Porter seems to be hemorrhaging credibility. Of course, it’s their business, they can charge whatever they wish, and more power to them, but this (the sudden discovery of 250GTE book copies) seems a little odd.
     
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  3. Rosey

    Rosey F1 Rookie

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    They still say they are a numbered edition out of 750, so can't be a reprint.
     
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  4. Zeltweg

    Zeltweg Karting

    Apr 8, 2021
    89
    Very interesting. Today I noticed Ferrari 250 GTO - The Autobiography of 4153 GT (Limited Edition; 100 copies) was also back in stock. The listing has a logo that says “Vintage Porter” which is also on the 250 GTE listing.
     
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  5. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

    Feb 18, 2004
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    #3880 jtremlett, Oct 9, 2021
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    I imagine that they have reprinted damaged copies (although it would help if they were clear), just as Palawan did with Ferrari in Camera (I must have missed the indignation about that). I don't really see what the issue is. No-one is being forced to buy at the higher price. In any case, the 250 GTE book is still better value at £200 than the 20 GTO book at £450.

    With regards to Vintage Porter, I found this "Welcome to Vintage Porter, a newly created division of Porter Press International that encompasses our special editions, the last few copies of a particular book, one-offs and specially-signed copies. Vintage Porter is for the collectors. Most high quality motoring books go up in value, not down..."
     
  6. bloomberg

    bloomberg Formula Junior

    Mar 7, 2011
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    Porter has some very nice titles, as they have some duds. But they clearly want to milk the cow as much as possible. And they do not communicate well with their audience, they may wish to devote a ‘division’ to solve that problem!
     
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  7. Buchpilot

    Buchpilot Formula Junior

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    I think, Porter Press operates the same price system than Palawan, but in contrast to Palawan they do it rather unofficially and that causes irritation. The first copies of Palawan's Aston Martin V8 book cost 650 GBP, then the price went up to 750 GBP, and the last 50 copies cost 1,000 GBP. But they said so right from the beginning and everyone knew what he or she would have to pay now and in the future.

    In my opinion, the Porter Press team are absolutely honest and cordial people. They would never try to market re-prints or sell copies of questionable pedigree (if you excuse that word in this context). They just got their communication a little bit wrong.
     
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  8. Rosey

    Rosey F1 Rookie

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    Personally the higher price doesn't effect me at all. I bought my copy of 250 GTE on release and am very happy with it.

    What does annoy me is the SOLD OUT status and then nearly a year later it's now "unsold out", put under a "vintage" category and priced at double the release price.

    A similar thing happened with the Ferrari Store when selling their 1000 GP book (which was also a subject of discussion) where they sold the book on their official website advertising it as 1/2000, then they sold out and a week or so later they "unsold out" but not mentioning they were now selling the 1/8360 edition.

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/official-book-collectors-thread.200937/page-133#post-147780165

    If it's sold out it's sold out.

    Don't hold 50 copies or so back and then charge punters a premium.

    Porter Press should be more transparent and use a term like... initial release allocation sold out, further releases to follow.
     
  9. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

    Feb 18, 2004
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    I agree they should be transparent about where the extra copies have come from. However, I doubt they have "done a Ferrari" and printed a few hundred extra. Rather, I think they have "done a Palawan" and reprinted damaged copies. But there is no reason why they can't be clear about it.
     
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  10. Rosey

    Rosey F1 Rookie

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    As I mentioned prior Porter definitely have not printed more unnumbered new copies, I just mention the Ferrari situation as an example of a sold out book becoming mysteriosly available again.
     
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  11. Seppefan

    Seppefan Karting

    Aug 24, 2021
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    Mate of mine bought a copy for about £260 I believe from Cotswold as sold out. Now rather p@s@ed off !
     
  12. Seppefan

    Seppefan Karting

    Aug 24, 2021
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    Tells me it was not as much but over £200. Seen it for sale nearer £300 recently.
     
  13. Halfwit

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    Hortons have had one for months for 200 quid!!
     
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  14. Rosey

    Rosey F1 Rookie

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    You know things are out of whack when Horton's price is in line with the publishers !! :) :)
     
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  15. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 2, 2005
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    #3890 Marcel Massini, Oct 14, 2021
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    https://www.fullcircleferrarigto.com/

    Hardbound.
    228 pages,
    Very entertaining.

    Marcel Massini

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  16. Buchpilot

    Buchpilot Formula Junior

    Sep 3, 2021
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    Great - I have been waiting for a new GTO book a long time ;)
     
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  17. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 2, 2005
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    Mr. K:
    See post #3757 from September 2021.

    Marcel Massini
     
  18. Buchpilot

    Buchpilot Formula Junior

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    Sven
  19. Rosey

    Rosey F1 Rookie

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    I'll do more research but personally looks like a bit of a shelf filler to me rather then a must have.

    Seems like a memoir of the man and how the car crosses his path, rather than the other way around.
     
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  20. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
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    Jun 22, 2004
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  21. pilotoCS

    pilotoCS F1 World Champ
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  22. Buchpilot

    Buchpilot Formula Junior

    Sep 3, 2021
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    According to the GTO register recently published by Porter Press, Bodin owned the car for 19 years, from 1974 to 1993. The current owner acquired the car in 2004, so in two years he or she will equalize the "record".
     
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  23. Albert-LP

    Albert-LP F1 Veteran
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    Alberto Mantovani
  24. bloomberg

    bloomberg Formula Junior

    Mar 7, 2011
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    Off topic, for the ones with a soft spot for Zuffenhausen:

    Porsche Silver Steeds,
    Porsche Racing, a dedication 1948 to 1965
    Roy Smith
    Palawan Press
    Poor man's edition at pre-order GBP500.- (first 150 copies)
    Leather fetish edition from GBP2,000.- (first 15 copies)
     
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  25. DeRRis

    DeRRis Karting

    Nov 6, 2012
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    Dennis B
    I can only find this book from Veloce Publishing?
     

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