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2022 Geneva show cancelled.

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  1. Nembo1777

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    https://www.euronews.com/2021/10/07/2022-geneva-international-motor-show-cancelled-due-to-covid-19-pandemic

    https://www.lefigaro.fr/economie/le-salon-de-l-auto-de-geneve-annule-son-edition-2022-face-aux-difficultes-du-secteur-automobile-20211007

    The organisers aim to be back on track for the March 2023 edition but cancelled the March 2022 event due to too much uncertainty caused by Covid and just as much to production difficulties due to lack of semi conductors.

    So a third cancellation of the most important new car salon in the world in three years...sad times.
     
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    #2 Marcel Massini, Oct 17, 2021
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    Clearly the nail in the coffin. Geneva is dead.
    The Swiss politicians and AH in Berne clearly are responsible for killing this worldfamous event.
    Extremely sad.
    Look what happened in Germany with IAA, formerly in Frankfurt and then what a total joke the event was in Munich a few weeks ago. Bicyclists, left wing and green party activists, greenpeace, and all the rest of the pack took over and destroyed everything.
    World has changed, and not to the good, and that's super sad.
    And then there are people like Herbert Deiss, boss of Volkswagen AG in Wolfsburg, who falls in love with all these idiots and supports their ideas and basically shoots in his own foot and ruins his "own" company. That man really needs to see a doctor. Deiss is responsible for hundreds of thousands of employees worldwide and for one of the largest car manufacturers on the planet but he seems to have completely forgotten all that. Clearly the wrong person for that job.

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  3. Nembo1777

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    A very sad state of affairs. Among several news sites from several countries I read every day briefly a little Geneva newspaper online and as soon as cars are concerned the reader comments are very divided between car people and green byciclist car haters. Of course manufacturers now have a tendency to prefer their own events which they can control entirely at efficient cost (Geneva is -was?- very expensive). I first went to the Geneva show when I was about 13, such an amazing prestigious global event, THE most prestigious car show on earth and it is the only time of the year when I look at current cars...I really hope it can come back but yes it won't be quite the same if it does...
     
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    geneva has been socialist (and broke) for decades.
    and the cantonal and city govt have to be some of the dumbest people outside of the usa govt.....
    geneva is based on OPM - other people's money....do they honestly think that the local working class is what keeps patek, LV, Hermes, Metropole, 4 Seasons, etc going ??
    do they really think visitors with more money than many countries actually want to ride the bus?? or a bike??
    they are so damn stupid it is pathetic.

    and i am from there.
     
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    Yes it is a great city so amazingly International and compact with the lake front and summer swimming, excellent airport, mountains nearby but it has these idiots running it. I am there almost every week and see the messes they cause.

    During confinement last year they created "temporary" bike lanes replacing countless parking spaces...except after confinement the bike lanes did not go away. Say goodbye to the parking spaces. A few years ago I thought briefly about doing a concours in the Parc des Eaux Vives (where Biden and Putin had their summit March 16) but as soon as I was told the parc was controlled by the city government car haters I knew it was hopeless: predictably it had been tried before. Some of the Canton socialists even dreamed to turn the Cologny golf course into cheap housing buidings...
     
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    #6 Dino2010, Oct 19, 2021
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    Guys, we carlovers are becoming a species that is facing extinction, whether we like it or not.
    Any country in the world needs politicians.
    Any politician need votes.
    And if VW-boss Deiss is a schmuck, he is a schmuck who needs to sell. He is trying to create a green image for his fraud firm, remember dieselgate?
    He'll have to sell something to that future green society, sooner than we all think. Youth of today doesn't give a damn for cars, and certainly not ICE.
    And whether Deiss sells ICE cars, EV, bicycles, or vegan sausages, he doesn't care too much, as long as he sells. And eventually that will make sure hundreds of thousands of people will be able to keep their jobs.... In the end of the day, they want to bring bread on the table, even if it would mean they'd have to build Fred and Wilma's car. :D
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    ....which is why my house is in valais....
     
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    They should just move the show permanently. There's no reason to believe the Swiss will ever say "Ok" in the future.

    There is absolutely no reason why it has to remain in that venue.
     
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    You don't understand the sense of tradition here in the old world.

    What you are saying is like moving Congress to Key West and the White House to some casino brothel town in the desert founded by mobsters; Las something...
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    Don't take it personally; just shaking you up;-).

    Geneva is a hugely prestigious city, removing the show from there is anathema.
     
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    Hmm... you may be onto something.
     
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    Great idea! Perhaps instead to a small island in the Pacific, maybe one with no internet........:D
     
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    there is a lot of history tied up with this location.
    it was a neutral venue so that all car companies could bring their newest and greatest, and it was nobodies home turf. cant do that anywhere else that has this much money prestige and class.

    now, one possibility might be to move it up the lake to montreux, where they are a little less socialist.
     
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    #13 Nembo1777, Oct 21, 2021
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    Montreux I enjoy in summer but the hotel room capacity I think would be insufficient. If you look up Geneva's population it says 620000 (though it's well over a million with the suburbs around it in Switzerland and minutes away in France north and south of the city). Montreux is...just 25000...

    Zurich, 1,407000, would be a viable alternative with an even better connected airport than Geneva and it also has a pleasant lakefront location and beautiful historic city (thought it is less International than Geneva and even more pricy!) just call it the Swiss International auto salon. There would be less French visitors being further away but more from Austria and Germany.
     
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    Very sad state of affairs. As Rolex1 stated " Youth of today doesn't give a damn for cars, and certainly not ICE." That may be true but they all take Uber wich is an automobile to get around, because they don't want to wait for public transit. That in turn is pulling funding from public transit. They will also care about ICE when all the pie in the sky poorly thought out European 2035 proclamations get back tracked when they start running out of READILY AVAILABLE Lithium. I can't think of many countries who have the money to extract Lithium from ocean water. Case point, look at how well extracting fresh water from salt water is working out in California :)
     
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