360 F1 won't shift into neutral

Before restarting, did you put the key in posn II and leave it for 10 seconds as the manual suggests? This gives all systems time to come back on-line. I had to go through this step twice to clear the transmission fail fault I had after letting the battery get too low.

 

only way i have ever been able to get them back into neutral is with sd2 in diagnosis select neutral engagement then complete self learn...probably another way but never tried doing it any other way.

 

So glad your problem cleared too. I think we both learned a valuable lesson about letting the battery get low, it just wrecks havoc with these cars.

 

I'm also glad to hear that the problem was resolved by a new battery.
Cheers.

 

My former 360 had the same problem after having it in a shop for a bumper respray. I was told to pull both paddles back for about 15 seconds release and repeat. It worked perfectly. Glad you got it sorted out.

 

I am having the same problem with my 2000 360. Can you please explain what sd2 is?

 

It's a Ferrari-supplied diagnostic tool that dealer workshops often have. Some independent Ferrari specialist workshops and Ferrari owners have them, but they are extremely expensive.

 

What year is your car?

Always wonder if certain year cars experience some problems that later get sorted out. I have a 2003 and the battery has run flat a few times and the car would not start. But with that said I never had any issues once the battery was completely disconnected from the car and recharged/reinstalled.

 

My year of my car is 2000. I disconnected the battery, charged it and reinstalled it. I put the key in and turned it to the 2nd setting and waited 10 seconds. Then I held both paddles towards me for 15 seconds. I did this multiple times and it's still stuck in 1st gear. I did notice that below the "1" I could see it read "AUTO". After pulling both paddles, I would get 4 chirps. Not sure what that means? I can't have the car towed because it's stuck in 1st gear. Any suggestions?

 

Here a short video of me trying to start my 2000 360. Notice after the 4th beep the AUTO light comes on under the gear gauge.

 

Thank you for replying to my post. Do you have any suggestions on what I should try next?

 

Sorry, I'm probably the least-qualified person to respond to questions on the F1 system (unless the questions are about how the components are wired up).

 

Got it. No worries.

 

The Workshop Manual does mention 4 beeps, but only in relation to the installation and setup of the F1 TCU (Transmission Control Unit).

There is also this paragraph regarding startup...

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Does the F1 car allow startup in 1st gear with your foot on the brake?

 

Thank you Qavion, I did have my foot on the brake. I read an earlier post to check the engine lid is close, gas cap panel and front hood are all secure. Will try that in the morning.

 

I can't find a link between the gas cap and the F1 system. I'm not sure if this is an old wives' tale

Looking at the wiring diagrams for the F1, I can see links to the:

1) Driver's door - Does the pump prime when you open the door? Opening the door will also knock the gearbox into neutral under certain circumstances.
2) Park brake - Brake switch failures ... or simple switch stickiness... are common). Make sure your brake lights are working. You may want to lubricate the plunger on the switch above the brake pedal. I'm not sure of all the things that the brake pedal does to F1 operation.

I haven't yet found a link between the engine lid and the F1 system in the wiring diagrams. The engine lid switch does talk to the instrument displays, the immobiliser ECU and the spider roof ECU (where applicable). Perhaps the data is sent on CAN data bus wiring from the instrument panel?

 

Four chirps could mean your alarm module has failed. I had that a couple years ago, replaced the alarm module and now no longer get the chirps. I suspect the chirping is unrelated to the F1.

 

Thank you so much Qavion and EastMemphis for your help. I was able to get the 360 out of 1st gear this morning. There is a post that Zingara 20GTL posted back on Jun 21, 2002. By following this procedure I was able to get the car started. The car did idled kind of rough for about 15 seconds. I loaded a screen shot for reference.

@ EastMemphis, There is an issue with the alarm that I knew about before buying the car. It was noted in a past service record.

Now that I have the running, it's going to the shop for some maintenance work and to fix the alarm.

Thank you every for your comments. I'm new to Ferrari community and have loved these cars since birth.

 

This is a perpetuating myth. When you push the brake pedal, the pedal moves away from the microswitch which sends the "pushed" signal to the F1 TCU (see item #11).

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You only need to move the pedal a short distance away from the switch to activate it. Pushing harder will not do anything. If you clean, lubricate and exercise the switch, it should work properly.

Anyway, glad you had some success.

 

Good to know. That is so weird that it did start this morning. I'm scheduling to have car looked at.

Thanks again for your response.

 

Try pushing the brake pedal as hard as you can to the floor.
I had a problem getting N after parking in 1st gear on a hill, years ago and an Fchatter bailed me out with that tip.

 

LOL... the myth continues

Another graphic of the brake pedal switch

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