Mine is finally in production. Should arrive around January. TDF blue with beige interior.
To be resentfully fair to SoCal ... the Superfast was heading in that direction (as was the Pista). It took the manifestation of an automotive universe in which Kia Tellurides are selling over sticker to reverse that downward momentum. I don't think there's a single person that could have predicted or did predict the sequence of events that have led us to it. So anyone who was projecting that these cars were going to hold value has been proven right for completely unrelated reasons to the ones that led them to that opinion. But I'm happy for anyone who gets to keep more of their money. Better to be right by accident than wrong by design.
Even if nothing unusual occurred, picking up an 812 at 45% off original price for a low mileage no stories car would be not possible, for example, a 2018SF with an original price of $400K would be $220K (at 45% off original), even F12's were doing better than that after 5 years from production As it was known then and now, the 812 has no successor (other than a rumored reveal at end of 2023, which could be hybrid or not even happen, too far out), that plus what we now know as low production for USA (about 1200 units, apparently just over half F12 production) will seem to keep prices at 75% of original or higher in any case.
Sounds pretty unique, I thought all 599 were single clutch https://www.autotrader.com/car-reviews/2011-ferrari-599-gtb-fiorano-overview-206070
It actually pairs nicely with the aluminum foil I wear under my clothing and my encrypted burner cell phone Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
To make a statement like that - "wait 2 years and you will get a 45% discount on the 812" - takes a fair amount of self importance and condescension. SoCal qualifies well on both counts.
Well, many knew it was very possibly the last V12 NA. And Ferrari historically was known for its 12’s. So it’s not like I didn’t have that same light bulb like I had with the 458. The noise is likely gone with turbo, hybrid, electric and never come back.
Believed yes, knew no. Even today whether the 812 will be the last full NA V8 is not a certain thing and is a topic of endless circular discussion around here, never mind two years ago. Low mile F12s were wholesaling at around $175k, 812s were wholesaling a smidgen north of $250k and you could get a low mileage high spec at retail for under $300, they were most certainly trending in the F12 direction were it not for the pandemic. Would they have rebounded if the 812 turned out to be the last full NA V12? Most certainly ... but unless they build a Ferrari that can travel through a portal to the multiverse this point is super-moot as we will never know how it would have turned out in an alternate reality where the world didn't happen the way it did. All we know for sure is what I said before, that whatever the current value of any car is has zero to do with anything anyone could have predicted two years ago. It's like me waking up tomorrow and discovering that drinking half a bottle of bourbon a day is better than exercise. I'll take the win but I'm not going to lay claim to having awesome foresight. And come on people, get your ship together, @SoCal to az is wrong on soooooo many things, you guys had thousands of posts worth of pickings to have a go at him, and yet you chose the least effective one.
I will nit-pick on you some here, the 2018 812SF had a MUCH lower base msrp than 2019, there was a very significant increase in base price: USA Base MSRPs: 2018 $335,275 2019: +$22,827 from 2018! $358,102 2020: +5600 or so for 2020 base msrp $363,702 It was only the 2018s coming, quite briefly and only very low-spec'd cars, under 300K (and, at this point, if there is a successor to the 812, it will likely be summer 2024 before it is in production, presuming a reveal actually occurs in late 2023 as rumored...so, for all we know at this time, the 812 is the end of the line for V12s...regular production)
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