Seat Belts

The right hand two are probably not correct for Dinos/Daytonas.

Those sorts of belts came on some USA Ford models; if you pull the belt all the way out, I think you will even find a Ford label on the base of the belt webbing, but I could be wrong about that.

The black plastic covers are the same as the Dino/Daytona belts, but the tongue is not not right...

 

What Ford model had those seat belts?

 

Ferrari and Ford never mixed. GM was a better match! The Robbins seat belts original to the Dino in 72' buckle mechanism replacements were from GM. So I think the Robbins at least were GM based? I am wondering about the black molded cover that one sees in the picture above?

 

I'd bet a nice breakfast that the retractor in that picture is not original to the car.

That retractor is (1) very similar, (2) will actually work with the stock "button" side of the buckle, and (3) very easy to get. So it would be fairly natural to find one in a Dino every now and then.

 

This is interesting. What model number is listed on the label?

Still, I think it is more likely that they came from some other car. Certainly anything other than the Klippan that one normally sees would be a very odd duck.

 

Just to be clear, the Ford models have the "incorrect" (in my estimation) seat belts on the right side of the picture.

If you search on eBay for belts from Ford Torinos, Racheros, and Fairlanes from that era, it won't take long for you to come across that retractor.

 

Robbins supplied seat belt components to all sorts of folks.

The fact that Ford and Ferrari used the same component suppliers does not imply that they "mixed" to any degree.

The black molded cover on those "right side" retractors is pretty much an exact match for the ones that came on the 100% correct retractors. The buckles and webbing are not correct, however, so you'll need to switch those out if you want a belt that looks 100% correct.

BTW: if you try to remove those covers, do yourself a favor, and go buy a good hot-air gun (the kind used to soften house paint (so that you can scrape the paint off the wall). If you try and remove those covers when they are room temp, you are *very* likely to crack the hard plastic collar that is inside the opening that the belt end comes out of (ask me how I know).

Even if the cover seems "rock hard", heating it with an air-gun will eventually start to soften it, and the retractor assembly will come out easily...

 

These were on my 1972 Dino when I bought it in 1979. 16,000 miles on the car at that time, so no reason to think they are not original.
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USA delivery car?

 

Yes S/N 3426.

 

Ok, that is very interesting. If it were a Euro car, then non-original belts might have been installed fairly early in its life.

If you pull the belt all the way out, is there model number listed on the Klippan label?

If it shows "562" it is odd that the same model of belt was delivered with two different types of buckles.

Alternately, if a different model is shown, then it would appear that at least Dinos were delivered with something other than 562s...

 

I believe Euro cars starting with the 206’s would have had Klippans similar to this:
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=13724.0

I’ve also seen in late product more modern retractable Klippen seat belts. The key parts are still available through DeLorean (passenger side female part)
https://store.delorean.com/100702-rh-seat-belt-assy.html

On US cars I’ve only seen the Robbins style with a lap belt only (don’t know why) on late production.


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i have this available. also suitable for a Daytona.
only have one side available.
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No labels (or remnants thereof) on the retractor straps.
Labels on the shoulder straps and buckle straps are completely faded.
Buckle has molded instructions and "MFG BY ROBBINS".