430 Car beeping 4 times after lock/unlock

same thing

 

If you would like the alarm siren rebuild info I have that

 

Found my own answer... I forgot I have the 430 spider manual:


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Yes please send it over.. just in case all fails I will do that. 1148 is a bit steep for a new one.let me know if you want my email i will pm
Thanks a lot

 

I will get it to you tomorrow

 

my 430 has been beeping 4-5 times about 20 seconds after locking it for years.
multiple battery changes and other work done in that time.
obd has been on that car many times. no codes.

it still beeps.

 

Thought I replied to this. I never had an issue with my car but looked into everything that could "eventually fail" since I like my car to be perfect.

The F430 siren can have battery failure much similar to the 360. I think often rare since different cell capacity and not yet as old of a car.
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This is a series circuit and should be reading much higher, not shown but was under 3v

Fixed:
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I think when your car battery dies or the F430 sits in "battery disconnect mode" the siren gets pulled upon. No recharge for these guys.

 

Mine were Jan 2005. Feel like there will eventually be more threads about weird alarm issues on F430.


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Ya know since Ferrari's answer is the same for the tail lights. Buy new ones.....you can afford a Ferrari.

These sirens should last 10 years on the shelf. But I bet everyone's batteries are reacting different depending on the environment they were subjected to.

FYI: Batteries in datacenters on RAID controllers have been an issue for a long time.

 

I think you should have less problems with the 430 Lithium batteries, rather than the old 360 NiCads. Supposedly Lithium batteries don't leak, so they shouldn't destroy the siren circuit board.

 

I agree. I actually edited my post to remove "chemistry" since most would not understand the reasoning. It is not only capacity degradation but also "physical" chemical degradation. F430 still will for sure have issues related to the circuitry and the voltage. 360 was just less robust design regarding the voltage tolerance.

Your 360 board would "turn to ****" faster and read 0v. Does the alarm module/ECU/DME upstream of the F430 alarm module "care less" than the 360?

Just part of those 360 v 430 threads.......

 

So those OEM yellow ones are NOT rechargeable? How would they last so many years..

Thanks.

 

That's what the CR123A is designed to do, similar to smoke alarm 10 year lithium. My guess would be that they aren't relied upon except when there is no car battery voltage. (not sure if that also is when the trunk disconnect is used) They do age like any battery though. I think we will start to see more F430 alarm threads unless folks listen to the dealership and buy replacement sirens. (forget but around $100-200)

If you replace your siren, crack it open and read the voltage. Should be above 6v

"Are CR123A Batteries Rechargeable?

A very common question asked about the CR123A is “Are CR123A Batteries Rechargeable?” The short answer is no. CR123A batteries are primary batteries which are considered disposable (or recyclable) and not rechargeable. It can be very hazardous to attempt to recharge a battery that is not meant to be recharged, especially when it comes to lithium batteries. If improperly recharged, a lithium battery can rapidly combust causing serious damage to the device, charger, or user. NEVER TRY TO RECHARGE PRIMARY BATTERIES!

Now although the CR123A battery is not a rechargeable battery, there are batteries that have the same exact dimensions of a CR123A battery but are made from different chemistries. An example of this would be a 16340 sized battery. The 16340 battery is the exact same size as the CR123A battery but is made of a Lithium-Ion chemistry and is rechargeable (secondary) battery.

How Long Does a CR123A Battery Last?
How long a CR123A battery lasts depends greatly on the manufacturing quality and the application of the battery. Assuming that the battery is fresh and purchased from a reliable source, there is still a large range of service life depending on the usage. For a frequent application that requires large amounts of energy, such as for a soldier's weapon light, a CR123A battery could last less than a month. For a more passive usage, such as in a home security alarm panel, service life can be over a year with the right conditions. Basically, how long your CR123A battery will last depends on what you need it to do. "

 

so the 4 beeps is because the alarm batteries are low?
so my batteries have been low for the last 4 years? or are they just dead and thats what the beeps are about?

 

Just a guess since that is how the Porsche alarm works. Honks to indicate issues with circuit. Not sure if the Ferrari has a radio disconnect trip. Could also be your microswitches and the car thinks something is still open like your door or trunk. Do all your window drops work?

 

yes. all systems are working normally

 

Would leave the siren battery then as my suggestion.

 

Are you sure there are 4 beeps? Mine does 5, and I listened carefully, there are 5, not 4.

My driver door window does not drop... but it did not drop before (when I bought the car) and and the beeps were not there.... I don't have the car with me at home yet, so I could not troubleshoot the door (need the door fully open, has to be warm, none of these conditions can be met now ) . I tried to play with the settings in the clock panel, there is nothing there about the alarm, only clock and "walk home" headlight on duration after shutdown.
I also tried both keys, it still beeps.. I will replace batteries in both keys anyway when they arrive...
I suppose in my case, until I fix my window drop problem, no point opening up the siren and changing battery...

Thanks

 

Yeah I would for sure solve the microswitches first. Slight pull on each exterior should cause the window drop. Then the interior door handle has their own switches too.

 

Just for clarity, I have neither 360 nor F430 .. or did you mean "your typical 360"

We really need a comprehensive description of the function of each of the door microswitches.

When the door is closed, the windows go up automatically, so there must be an additional input from the microswitch in the doorlatch. Note: The microswitch near the door hinges has no input into the Window ECU.
The WSM also states that in the interior door handle is pulled, but the door is not opened, the window will go back up again after 15 seconds. This must also be a function of the microswitch in the latch (with some time delays in the Window ECU).

The 360/F430 key-operated doorlock microswitches are in parallel with the interior door handle microswitch. So they would also have the potential to drop the windows.

So we have 3 switches telling the window to go down, one or more switches telling the window not to go down (because the car is locked) and one or more switches telling the window to go back up.

So, logically, you have two problems. Just curious though... Did you lock the car in the first months of owning it? Or just kept it in a locked garage at home, so wouldn't have heard the beeps?

I decided to change the battery in my F355 siren for peace of mind. I didn't know when it was last changed and the NiCads would leak eventually and destroy the siren. I ended up changing the siren itself for purely cosmetic reasons (my siren case needed to be cut open to access the battery).

 

The royal we/your of 360/430 ownership.

Or maybe you're to help balance out the number of times your has been misused.

 

Yes I did lock it... thing is, it also beeps 5 times when you unlock it telling the same tale. Something amiss. The beeps started only recently... kinda coinciding with cooler weather.

 

F430 too cold....becomes sentient and desires to move to west coast.

 

not so warm on the West coast!

jetstream has progressed much further South over the years, and now it's much colder than it was moons ago!

Even SoCal is not as warm as it was

 

Greg I tried to inform your input regarding CA climate to my bernie supporting wife and almost got smacked. (luckily taller and faster than her)