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  1. pgrootswagers

    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    #1 pgrootswagers, Dec 10, 2021
    Back in 1994, after lots of telephone calls and faxes with Mr. Peter Kaus, I was allowed to come over and shoot his Ferrari collection. For the occasion his mechanic would go along with me to open up all cars.
    It was a 5 hour drive from my hometown to Aschaffenburg; all I remember is that it was an intens day.
    I hereby post my scanned slides (some very poor quality but anway).
    Enjoy
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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    #2 pgrootswagers, Dec 10, 2021

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    #10 pgrootswagers, Dec 10, 2021
    I found a little wrapped up paper with serialnumbers:

    250 GT LWB Zagato #0665 GT
    512 M #1006
    312PB #0890
    250 GT Spyder #1961 GT
    275 GTS #07423
    750 Monza #0492M
    275 GTB2 #06915
    365 GTB4 #16925
    365 GT4 BB #18453
    Testa Rossa #55787
    250 GTL #5947

    I do not know if this is correct; my handwriting is not really readable; very worn piece of paper!
     
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  11. Christian.Fr

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    #11 Christian.Fr, Dec 10, 2021
    Thanks for sharing pictures, where this collection was based, Neederland?

    What about the collection today?
     
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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    #12 pgrootswagers, Dec 10, 2021
    Rosso Bianco collection was situaties in Aschaffenburg naar Frankfurt germany.
    In 2006 collection was broken up.
    Lots of the cars went to Louwman collection but not the Ferrari’ s.
     
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    #13 ag512bbi, Dec 10, 2021
    I love stuff like this. They are like "Barn Find" Photos. Thank you for sharing.
     
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    #14 Nembo1777, Dec 10, 2021
    Thank you for posting, I went there twice and PK was always very nice, the first time in the snow he guided me back to the Autobahn, he in an Xjs, me in the 924 turbo I had just shipped from Florida and picked up in Antwerp, the second time summer 1995 he pulled his Maserati Tipo 151 out for me so I could shoot it for an article.
    The next day I flew Frankfurt Miami.
    It was a huge museum, quality in quantity, impossible to reproduce today.
     
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    #15 635CSI, Dec 10, 2021
    Thank you for sharing!
     
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    #16 635CSI, Dec 10, 2021
    The 917s are nice too….you know, for a Porsche
     
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  17. christc

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    #17 christc, Dec 11, 2021
    I was there several times. It contained lots of interesting cars beside the F cars. E.g. Lindner-Nocker E-Type Lightweight or beautifull pre war cars like Figoni & Falaschi Delahaye, Talbots etc.
    Sadly I took no pictures to share.

    Peter Kaus is from the Metzler Tyre Dynasty and has been a very eager collector.

    As far as I heard and understood he sold it under the condition that it stays together but it was sadly broken up after the sale.
     
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    #18 wbaeumer, Dec 11, 2021
    Main problem was for Peter -that was never really discussed...!- that most cars in his collection were in very original but bad condition and in need of a restoration.
    And Peter was never a person who liked to invest money into his collection when this became expensive. He had bought all his cars for little money, because only few people wanted them at that time!
    When it came to money the very charming Peter Kaus could turn into a "beast"! I witnessed it twice when a very influential industrialist who managed a company with thousands of employes called me after the purchase of a car from the Kaus Collection: "I negotiated hundreds of deals, most of them difficult - but to deal with Peter Kaus is something I could never ever do again..!"

    Yes, Kaus went into orbit when Lowman -major shareholder of BONHAMS- sold the majority of the cars in their auctions. But this was not really fixed in the sale contract between Louwman and Kaus.
     
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    #19 turbo-joe, Dec 11, 2021
    sad what lowman did. :( :( :( so a reason never do something with bonhams
    peter kraus would be better set up a foundation for his collection, then all cars still would be together
     
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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    pgrootswagers Formula Junior

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    Peter Grootswagers
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