Please explain the controversy

Also per the rules, all of that is "supposed to" happen subject to the overriding authority of the Race Director. But, you already know that.

This is for you, man.

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I have more championship pictures than you. You gotta catch up man! 7 more to go and you'll be up there!

 

Mine are more fun, though!

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Yes, Masi should always handpick cars in a manner that most benefits Scuderia Ferrari.

Masi didn't want the last race to end under SC. He could have possibly acted faster and all lapped cars would have unlapped themselves in time for one final lap....and the outcome would have been the same.

But you only focus on how the events should have played out in the final lap to garner ham a WDC. You ignore the first lap Turn 7 excursion by ham in which he questionably retook the lead. You overlook ham's lack of ability to get by Checo more promptly. You ignore ham's lack of ability to defend as robustly as Checo on that final lap. And you ignore Merc's possible strategy errors.

Your ham-induced myopia is simply amazing.

 

Yesterday's news. I know you are very worried ham may never surpass Schumacher's 7 WDC titles now.

 

15.3 > 48.13 > 48.12 : This is the "hierarchy of the rules" as written, and understood by the FIA, F1 stewards, race officials ... basically everyone (except a few Hamilton fanboys)

 

I see your points - Specifically regarding the track being clear and removal equipment being in a safe location (gosh knows we don't ever want another Jules B situation) - As I have stated, I think Masi (perhaps with influence from other sources) made the call to ensure the race/season did not end behind a safety car - there is heated debate as to whether the track was clear (I certainly did not see any debris or equipment on/near the track - but I was too busy watching a RACE as opposed to a PARADE ) - I understand the rule/need to get the backmarkers/lapped cars out of the way but allowing ALL of them to overtake the safety car was not feasible in the time left and not allowing any would have resulted in the race/season ending with a Parade versus a Race.

I do see your points and there are great passionate points on both sides of the spectrum - I think Masi was in a difficult situation and made the call in the spirit of having a dramatic, exciting ending - perhaps the wrong call in hindsight but none of us were in his chair and I definitely don't believe he made the call to favor Max.

Love having good, passionate discussions with intelligent, well-spoken and knowledgeable people - Thanks for the chat and viewpoints - Cheers

 

Nope. Maybe more desperate, but not fun. Come on you need to find more, you're not even close to Ham

 

Get over it already!

 

Thanks!

 

Ham has more records, I'm good.

 

Sir, in what parallel world you live to consider it to "break the rules?"

 

hamilton desperately wanted to surpass Schumacher's 7x WDC, and it didn't happen.
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According to @ktu, it's better to end a race under safety car AND Kelly Piquet doesn't have curves.

 

Let me clarify. The question states top 2 drivers. Not only Ferrari. You think Masi should repeat this decision next race??

 

I want Norris to get a new engine every race. I want to see him race. I'll see if FIA can override the rules.

 

I would strongly disagree (WADR) on both
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If it's mid-race, there is time for all lapped cars to unlap and still resume the race to have it end under green flag. So there is no question and no overriding to consider.
Now with Latifi's crash so close to the end of the race, taking the time to have all cars unlapping would have led to end the race behing the safety car - so actual racing would not have resumed (to the delight of Hamilton, I can understand that); on the other hand, keeping all cars lapped (as initially considered, and would also have been an overriding of the usual procedure) would have kept cars between the first and second in the race, and erased the typical catch-up of the chasing car normally permitted by a safety car (also to the delight of Hamilton, since there would not have been enough laps for Verstappen to overtake all lapped cars and eventually be able to challenge Hamilton's lead).
The funny point is that any other decision than the one taken would have given the title to Hamilton without a final fight, whereas the decision made did give Verstappen the chance to fight for (and eventually win) the title - it was not a given that in one single lap, a slower car (which it was in this race) would be able to overtake a faster car, even though this one was running on older tyres.

 

(1) LH didn't retake the lead - - he ALREADY was in the lead.

(2) Getting around Checo more promptly wasn't about ability. LH had to be very circumspect lest the two of them made contact (i.e. LH had to finish AHEAD of Max in order to win the championship).

(3) LH's lack of defense against Max on that final lap was due to his tires being over 40 laps old. Being as LH needed to finish AHEAD of Max in order to win the championship, LH was very mindful of that - - getting taken out by Max on that last lap wouldn't have done him a bit of good. Again, not a question of ability.

 

Nice explanation, thanks.\

 

Michael Masi has finally brought true sporting tradition to F1.










That is, if you consider "Professional" Wrestling a "Sport".

 

He did RE take the lead because he left the track. If you’re OFF the track it doesn’t matter if you’re ahead of someone who is on the track.

So what. Tough ****.

Tires, AND he left a huge gap into the turn.

 

Not just masi, but all teams agreed to this as well.

merc > shot > own foot

 

Ah so you agree that Max's penalty for the same offense in jeddah was bs then

 

That's not true, is it? If Mercedes was so obviously right, the race would be overturned and lewis be champion.

But they're not so confident, otherwise they'd simply have persued it.