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Official Daytona Spyder Alloy conversion Thread

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Portenos, Apr 4, 2019.

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  1. Portenos

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    15689 went in for it's annual service with Dennison International located in Puyallup WA.
    This time I had the oil and filters replaced along with the coolant and brakes flushed. Other items included replacing the hard and 50 year old wind window seals and engineering a permanent fix to a troubling fuel rail that has had a history of leaks over the years. The solution was to machine a new fitting with 3 extra threads that screws deeper into the carb tops and then epoxy them in place - never to leak again. The cam covers will be pulled and the clearances checked and adjusted as needed followed by weber tuning on the dyno.
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  2. Edward 96GTS

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    50 wt oil instead of 20-50?
     
  3. turbo-joe

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    SAE 50 oil - in germany very hard to get meanwhile
     
  4. Edward 96GTS

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    those alloy bodies easily get “mechanics dents”
     
  5. Portenos

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    For those who insist on a complete warm up of the automobile 50w is the way to go. If one tends to jump in and go, 20-50 is the best choice.
    I for one always allow a complete warm up of the engine and the transaxle. It is amazing how different the car feels after - not only being warmed up - but after 50 to 60 miles. The suspension and steering feel much better, like a new car. I'm sure others have noticed this.
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  6. turbo-joe

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    what please has engine oil to do with suspension or steering?
     
  7. Portenos

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    None, just making the point regarding warm up not only applies to the engine oil but IMHO to everything else..
    FGM
     
  8. -K1-

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    How much weight do you think the alloy body saves?
     
  9. Portenos

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    Can someone direct me to the 365GT (Daytona) technical section?
    Thank you.
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  10. TTR

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    ???
    “technical section” of what, where… ?
    While this site has a generic “Technical” section, I’m not aware of any dedicated specifically for Daytonas or any other vintage models.

    Some, although very limited and not all necessarily accurate, technical data/information can be found in your owners & service manuals.
     
  11. Edward 96GTS

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    good question re weight savings. im not sure there is any official publication of the GTS4 weight.
     
  12. Portenos

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    Yes, good question. I know it is very easy to push around. The next time I am near a weight station I will check the weight and post it.
    Ciao,
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  13. Portenos

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    I am trying to establish what the water temp in centigrade, and oil temp in Fahrenheit, should be running down the highway on a 80 degree day.
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    Your gauges don’t work accurately ?
    OTOH, if they do, there are many variables that may effect the results and your mechanic should be able to explain them.
     
  16. Portenos

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    On July 16th we loaded up the Daytona and drove the 254 miles to Skamania Lodge on the Columbia River to participate in the SCM 1000.
    Over the next 7 days we put 1,754 miles on the clock. The ran flawlessly and used no Oil. 15689 is now totally sorted out and ready to go anywhere.
    The temp ran at a constant 76 degrees centigrade coming up to 82 on the hottest hill. The oil temp stayed on 140F and sometimes up a little.
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  17. gcalex

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    Congrats on the trouble-free tour (and getting your car in such a state)!

    Envious!
     
  18. gcalex

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    Since no one gave a concrete answer to your query, I thought I would give at least one other data point.

    Took my car out for an extended run today; about 80F ambient Pic below shows easy cruising in top gear; but a long enough run that the oil temp had a chance to really "top out".

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    My car is a Euro, so everything is in C, and the coolant and oil temp are similar; which sort of seems plausible, given how the oil-cooling system is constructed.

    Just as a note,140F is 60C, so your picture seems to show the oil running a lot cooler than the coolant. My dials only look like that after about 5-miles of driving; at that point, coolant will be "on the rise", but oil will still look "cold". By 10-miles, the oil will be noticeably "off the peg", and will keep rising until it looks similar to the coolant temp.

    Of course, I'm still in the process of sorting-out my Daytona, so I make no claims about it being "typical". That said, however, I think it is generally not expected for any instrument to be at "bottomed-out" under normal operating conditions.
     

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