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  1. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Using the tech Heliogen has?
     
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    ..and his own version (excuse) of "why he should get the job again, next season"(?).
     
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    They should brush up on race strategy calls too. That will be the next pitfall (assuming they do have a car that can somewhat compete for wins) because it’s been so long since they’ve needed to make those instant impulse decisions to “win” a close race I bet the strat guys are pretty rusty haha.

    As much as I’d love that to be a problem next year, I feel it’s wishful thinking. Let us all hope to be pleasantly surprised - Forza Ferrari!!


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  6. TonyL

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    Great question, I cannot find anything in the published 2022 technical regulations (or sporting regulations which will undoubtebly change from the last race farce) for fuel capacity except a reference to fuel flow set at a max 100 kg/hr. If so then engine performance will be critical as its up to each team to decide what size fuel tanks they fit i guess.

    SF I believe have always struggled with their engine fuel consumption for a number of years so it doesnt look good if they need to carry more fuel than say Honda (now RB) who have a good record so far of squeezing more litres per mile from their engines.

    I worry that SF dont have the technical men in place to challenge for 2022, that team of engineers have not done much innovation for a number of years. As I see it they dont need to have innovative ideas, they need to be more innovative than everyone else and aim higher. That's a tall order when you compare the likes of Mercedes and RB engineering staff, even Alpha Tauri showed them up in the 2021 season. They needed to have made development gains this year (mclaren), however I would like to think they were quietly and confidently acquiring lots of data.

    Tony
     
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    As per @TonyL above, no indication fuel capacity or fuel flow restrictions are changed. Surprised to read power loss from fuel change is as much as 20 hp.
     
  8. TonyL

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    I cannot see anything in the 2022 rules for fuel capacity, it was set under the 2021 sporting regulations atricle 30 but that doesn't exist anymore.

    Could it be that fuel tank capacity is the variable, ie once the car is designed to a fixed tank size then they will be stuck with it. Fuel flow is the overiding factor on how much fuel they use during a race and how much they need to carry at the start.

    I suspect a push to leaner engines is the driver.

    Best

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    Just seeing that they went from 400 to 800v tells me they're getting something right. More voltage means less amps required. It's the Engine story that gives me pause.
     
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    I think the engine will be good, Wolf Zimmerman (ex AMG) has been working on this for at least 2 years @ AVL.
     
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    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ferrari-sainz-and-leclerc-will-have-equal-status-in-f1-2022/7022132/

    Ferrari: Leclerc and Sainz Jr to have equal status in F1 2022
    By: Jonathan Noble
    Dec 29, 2021, 3:59 AM
    Ferrari says that Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz Jr will have equal team status next year, as the squad bids to get back to winning ways in Formula 1.
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    With the Maranello-based outfit having finished third this season behind Mercedes and Red Bull, it hopes that the early development switch it made to its 2022 car will pay dividends in helping it close up the gap.

    With one of the most closely matched driver pairings in F1, Ferrari is well aware that if its duo take points off each other then it could be a compromise if it finds itself in a tight championship battle.

    However, team principal Mattia Binotto is clear that Sainz and Leclerc will start on an equal footing – and that it will be results on track that will ultimately decide if there comes a point where they have to favour one over the other.

    “In terms of drivers, as we have often said, I think it is the track that will dictate it,” he said.

    “The priority is always the team, but no doubt, if they can compete for an important position in the championship, it will be the track that will tell who's ahead.

    “And sometimes, I think it's not only about driver talent or driver capacity. A driver can be a lot unfortunate, and have damage, reliability issues, or crashes.

    “So I don't think that we need at this stage, and certainly we will not have a policy, of number one or number two. We will simply discuss it based on positions on track whenever it will be time.”
     
  15. jpalmito

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    As always first part of season will decide everything..
     
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    Perhaps Binotto should read the history books, it doesnt end well. Every 2 driver No 1 status ends in acrimony and tears!
     
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    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ferrari-zero-compromise-on-f1-2022-focus-despite-mclaren-fight/7030947/

    Ferrari: "Zero compromise" on F1 2022 focus despite McLaren fight
    By: Luke Smith
    Dec 30, 2021, 3:52 AM
    Ferrari did not extend the development of its 2021 car despite its fight for third with McLaren, believing there could be "zero compromise" for next year's Formula 1 technical regulations.
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    Ferrari enjoyed a season-long battle with McLaren for P3 in the constructors’ championship that was only settled at the final race of the season.

    A strong end of the year, aided by an upgraded hybrid system on its power unit, meant Ferrari finished the season 47.5 points clear in the final standings.

    PLUS: How Ferrari triumphed in the battle for F1 2021's best of the rest

    Ferrari made clear throughout the season that its focus was on preparing for the incoming technical regulations for 2022, which are set to offer teams a big chance to make up time and reduce the gap to the front of the field.

    Despite the closeness of the fight with McLaren, Ferrari sporting director Laurent Mekies explained that the team never gave any thought to extending its development cycle on the SF21 car.

    “The answer is no,” Mekies said in a select media roundtable including Autosport in Abu Dhabi.

    “I think we made very clear from very early on, we took the decision to switch to 2022.

    “We were hoping at the time, because we are quite distant from McLaren, which is early on in the season, we were hoping that we would be able to fight eventually for the third place.

    “But we had chosen to make zero compromise for 2022. So that’s probably the most clean answer I can give you today.

    “We have been asked that 25 times, and no way. The only development we had in the second half of the year was the hybrid, which again is something we’ll use for next year.”
     
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    Hope to see them in front!
     
  22. TonyL

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    Talk about painting yourself into a corner Mr Mekkies !!
     
  23. jpalmito

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    [RUMOR] Motorsport Italy reports that Shell's E10 research center has developed a fuel for Ferrari, which is apparently recovering the estimated 20hp loss due to the introduction of the E10 fuel (+ redesign of the ICE). The 2022 Ferrari engine is also giving positive results.


    Nugnes is well known to be unreliable source but happy to see some optimistic rumors about the Scuderia..
     
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    Just a suggestion but the new car should be called:

    SF75........75 years in F1.
     
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