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Swiss Crash on Christmas Day 2021

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Marcel Massini, Dec 26, 2021.

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  1. Wheels1

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  2. Marcel Massini

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    Nobody was hurt, except some ego.
    Car was on loan from a friend.

    Marcel Massini
     
  3. thepinkumbrella

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    The article states there is criminal investigation. Would this be due to the taking of the car or the way in which it was being driven?

    Paul
     
  4. Ngcanada

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    Looks like Ferrari doesn't just build pretty/sexy cars...they can also protect the passengers too. Nice
     
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  5. Marcel Massini

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    Due to the way it was being driven.
    Upon leaving village driver accelerated and lost control. Possibly on summer tires? For sure it was cold and damp/wet.
    He will loose his drivers license for at least six months if not a year or so. Plus the fine will be massive.
    And good luck with the insurance companies involved.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  6. Marcel Massini

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    Guy was super lucky that he hit the tree with the right front only and not with the side or with the left front, otherwise he would be dead for sure.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    Looks like the car has 4-point harnesses.


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  8. Edward 96GTS

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    never let anybody drive your car. everyone thinks they are mario andretti. my viper has all my respect and i drive it like a little old lady from pasadena.
    never ever give hard acceleration unless the wheels are pointed straight.
     
  9. Chizz

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    I totally agree!! The more I drive my F8 the more I respect the power. My wife gives me a hard time saying I drive it like a little old man
     
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  11. malcolmb

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    familiar story...I dont get it, I always drive someone else's car cautiously. Anyway, this couldn't happen if Switzerland had a speed limit?
     
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    What is the point of having nice things if you can't share them with people you like?
     
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  13. Alcav5

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    I think people can't help themselves and the desire to "test" a "race" car is strong.

    On occasion I have attempted to test my sport cars and each time I have come close to sadness.

    I think it would be an unfair challenge to ask a friend friend or anyone not to do the same because at that point only luck is on your side.

    Sorry to read, glad everyone is ok.
     
  14. ryalex

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    I remember Swiss are super aggressive about traffic. in the US that would usually only be a civil negligence issue unless there was some documentary proof. Sure, some cops might give a 2 demerit “Failure to use due care” ticket (a low level catchall basically) but here in Nevada those are almost always reduced to 0 point parking tickets if challenged.
     
  15. Marcel Massini

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    I don't think this crash has anything to do with respecting a Swiss speed limit or not. In the village the limit is 50 km/h (31 miles), exiting village to the "open" road the limit in Switzerland is 80 km/h (50 miles). Maybe this poor 54 year old driver wasn't used to powerful cars (lack of experience)?) and this, combined with a damp/wet road, possible summer tires, and supercold weather as we currently have in Switzerland, can easily lead to such a crash. Luckily he wasn't hurt. But now he has to bear all consequences. And remember, there is always, ALWAYS, a tree in the way.

    Marcel Massini
     
  16. malcolmb

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    I was being sarcastic Marcel! Happy New Year.
     
  17. Il Co-Pilota

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    Hopefully some place nice.
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    Or at least be cautious about who drives them. My opinion is that the more who get to experience these cars, the better off the world is. That's however not the same as saying any moron is welcome behind the wheel:)

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    There are many cardinal rules of being a car guy. I plan to write a book about it someday, as soon as I finish my unauthorized autobiography.

    First Cardinal Rule: when driving a car that is not yours, drive it at 2/10. If they owner belittles you for your caution, drive slower. Thou shalt NEVER hot rod a car that is not yours. First, because it's terribly rude. Second, because you may not be familiar with the car or its power delivery. The only guys who drive my cars are those who understand this.

    Saw a bumper sticker the other day, and I'm still thinking about it: "If your'e gonna be dumb, you better be tough." Epic.
     
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  19. niklas

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    Idiot. Why drive like that in someone else’s car? Hell, why drive like that at all? There’s a time and place for this stuff, and that certainly wasn’t it, especially in those conditions.
     
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    There's always a tree on your way
     
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    Poor tree, was just minding its own business ;)
     
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  22. Chizz

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    How about just take ‘‘em for a ride?!!!
     
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    Oh the (grammatical) irony
     
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