Things to be aware of....known issues F12

Yes you are right I buy only original car, thanks

 

As, one of my buddy got the transmission leak today.. we're watching the technical do the job. The transmission seem like very small.. and to be honest I calculate the times he did it .. only 2 people by themself, it only took 1 day to finish the job.. which include take off from the car then install it. So, As i'm thinking it shouldn't be too hard for DIY.. it just the car too expensive plus the marketing make people overcharge us.


@Sloop : As my technical said, the way u drive it can damage the transmission, I don't know if it true or not.. because u're the engineering would u please explain.. he said if we just ACC hard.. then brake.. then Acc.. it will make that seal blow out very fast... if u acc hard.. just up shift .. not brake then acc... or just drive it in auto in city.. only beat on it in hi way while u can continue upshift..



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this is fantastic. I hope more DIY will become available. I just did power steering line, and it wasn't too bad. just needed to get $80 clamp releaser from knipex for one stupid hose clamp. I didn't take any pictures because nobody here seemed interested. i would do it next time if there's any interest. and yes, I would love to see diy on the trans seal. I agree this F-car shop prices are felony on wheels. people see the car and triple to 10x the price for no reason. I would actually argue F-car is actually easier to work on than a Corolla. The components are better; wire connection harnesses are motorsport grade. nothing breaks when I disassemble. everything comes off so easy. I can go on and on. anyway, thanks for the photos.

 

@sunghyun7 : I hope we can make a DIY for every people in here... I know alot of people need.. it just the gravy money... so.. lot of people doesn't want to share information

 

Love that transmission stand and lift.

 

This brings up a good observation several years ago a FERRARI independent mech told me that everything on a ferrari as built such that It could be disassembled and rebuilt or reinstalled.Items that most manufacturers now-days would use push pins to hold together ..on a ferrari would use bolts or screws such that they could be disassembled and reinstalled like new.. which make for great long term owner service

 

Second this. Nice to know that if they disassemble something it won't rattle or fall off.

 

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If you are asking me - yes, I did.

 

Hello F12 community how is it going so far. Ian still looking for an F12 and ich think in 2022 it will be my year to buy one. I hope that there will come more Used F12 on the german market because I do not want to buy any F12 out of 2013-2014…. Too old an to expensive.
So is there anything new what I should know about a pre owned F12? So if I buy my F12 it should have the approved warranty because I will go on track with this baby to see how it feels and moves.
So, greeting from Germany to you all!!!!
Cheers Sloop

 

I have had my F12 for 5 years now. The only issues have been as follows:

(1) weak-ish OEM battery...I have replaced two in the 5 years..one under warranty. Dealer says I should drive more often.
(2) loose leather cover on the underside of rear boot cover insert...the one that's attached to the rear hatch. DIY repair with quality spray adhesive.
(3) I used a metal cup in the cupholder and the silver paint on the 'wings' got scuffed. Bought new wings. Trying to figure out how to install.

No other issues. My only out of pocket in the five years: tires and battery

Heard about corrosion at the rear mesh but I don't wash the car and only drive on sunny days so not an issue for me (so far).

 

Hi Zedtt,
many thanks for your feedback this is what I expected and I do know about the mesh-issue in the rear. I have checked some F12 in Frankfurt at the Dealer and indeed there where some them who had paint problems. Good to know also about the sealing issue what might be a problem. I mean an F12 is also able to go with in on Track, like Chris Harris.I do not know what building year might get this problem more often. If this sealing issue happens more often, Ferrari would have change some things in production. Any how, next step will be to buy an OBD diagnostic tool….any recommendations for it?

Than in 2023 my new House will get also a new work shop garage, so I can do a lot by my self like on my Porsche 997.1 Turbo and BMW M2CS.
Service and good treatment will prevent a lot high impact cost from the original Ferrari Dealer. But I am doing mainly because I like it and I am a 100% Full blood engineer . And I think I have much more time for Inspection like the original Dealer.

And if there any other Ferrari addicted people in Germany or around, my plan is to help them if they have some problems on their Ferrari.

Thanks!!!

 

Engine / trans seem very solid. I don't think anyone got stranded with F12 here, but don't expect a Lexus. I had my power steering line leaking, and my stock alternator (or tensioner) started whining slightly recently. All these small problems can be fixed in the garage by yourself if you have worked on cars in the past. Just put aside some amount for unexpected repairs, and it'll give you years of trouble-free motoring. One more thing to add is if you drive in rainy weather, the rear hatch leaks and collects water in the plastic lining piece. just some stupid things like that. I stopped pressure washing directly at the gaps, and the problem "went away". I drive my F12 almost daily now and it gives me no real issues other than constant stops at the gas stations. This car should've come with a larger tank.

 

also Ferrari has extended warranty upto 15 years covers most major parts , I would just buy it for the peace of mind . Mine expires by 2022 and I'm still thinking of renewing it .

 

Hi Zedtt, hi Sunghyun,
may I ask you what Modell year your F12 is?
Many thank!
Regards Sloop

 

2015

 

2014

 

Hallo, I buy a Ferrari 12 last month, I drive the car 400km and have already a problem, the car give p0284 fault cylinder 8 injection, oké we change today but the car is still running bad he is running still on 11 cylinder so can somebody help me please what I can be?

 

I don't know what the latest situation is, but your car seems to have an ignition system problem. I hope you were able to fix the problem. In addition, the F12 Berlinetta is a very fast and stylish car with incredible power, and the sound of the V12 engine gives you a unique experience. I wish you pleasant driving, enjoy the car

 

I am resurrecting this thread in hopes it will help others who own or who are planning to own an F12.

I have a 2017 F12 with 8500 miles and was shocked today when I came outside to see an oil / fluid leak under the car. I called my Ferrari dealer in Austin TX and they sent out their transport truck and an hour later they told me I had a DCT seal leak and sent an estimated quote of $20,300 to repair it! Wow, I am so shocked!

About 4 weeks ago I had the major service done and they inspected everything and added F1 fluid. They didn't reference any leak or issue at that time. The car has been flawless up until this point. I haven't had a call with the dealer yet to discuss what this DCT service entails but with such low miles and it being a 2017 I am very disappointed that this occurred. I will try and see if there are other independent service shops nearby that may be able to assist me once I find out what is included in that price. It sure seems costly!!
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Hello,
First of all I am sorry for your misfortune. I found this situation a bit interesting, your car has been used for very few km and is a relatively new model. However, the most important thing is that they charge 20k USD for a leak caused by a gasket, this is incomprehensible!! If you bought a new transmission, you would have paid close to this amount. If there is a crack in any of the components inside, etc., then the situation may change, but still a 20k USD bill is terrible. Doesn't your car have an extended warranty? Under normal conditions, your warranty should cover such a dct problem without any charge. I hope you can solve the problem as soon as possible and easily.

Have a nice day

 

Almost guaranteed to happen. These don't have gaskets, they are closed with sealant. However, the sealant used on them is absolute garbage and for 10 years it almost becomes into plastic. When I bought a brand new gearbox from Ferrari for my car it leaked almost immediately. Even if it was unused, it was sitting on the shelf for probably 7-8 years, so the sealant has dried completely. So as soon as the gearbox was properly warmed, it started to leak immediately. I have taken the car to my mechanic, who used completely different sealant and I have no issues since then.

However, 20K for this seems absurd. All they need to do is to use one package of sealant, which probably costs $100. Everything else is labor.

 

Ouch! $20K to fix a leak in the transmission? Seems ridiculous. Call Harris at H&S Motorsports in Houston. They might be able to quote you over the phone if you have a detailed inspection from the Ferrari dealer diagnosing the issue. Keep in mind that H&S is good, but not exactly fast in their repair times. As long as you don't mind waiting they are a very trusted source for fixing Ferraris. Doesn't hurt to get a second opinion.

 

Yeah I agree with you guys, $20K seems outrageous to just seal a leaking gearbox. I had a chat with the service manager today at Ferrari of Austin and he explained what the labor entailed which includes dropping the rear, removing the gearbox and then crack and reseal. The service manager made it sound pretty common on the F12 (Enzo is likely rolling in his grave with this being common with low mile 2017 F12 cars). I was going to start checking with other Ferrari service shops to get some price comparisons, however the Ferrari dealer mentioned that if they do the service there would be some sort of warranty on the parts and labor so I am waiting to hear back on that aspect which would give me some peace of mind.