Will Lewis quit & who is available to replace him ?

I didn't call it understeer. I called it running wide.

 

No he really didn't.

 

What’s this fixation with Silverstone all about? It’s one incident. Max got his revenge at Monza and managed to drive Ham off the road in Brazil and Saudi. There has been plenty of feisty driving by the pair of them and I’d call it all square in terms of who’s at fault and who has come out on top. Max has aggression issues - that much is clear. This year it was Ham having to deal with it. In future years it will be other drivers. No big deal.

 

Well you have the video, if that doesn't help you there is little point me trying to argue further, as clearly what your eyes can see doesn't translate to your brain.

 

Purely because of one comment claiming that driving another of the road wasn't fair, implying the Saudi/brazil issues with Max not being fair.

 

I think there is a general issue with drivers pushing aggression too far this year. The blame doesn’t lie with the drivers, but with the FIAs inconsistent application of the rules and penalties. The tracks have also made it much easier to go off without consequence - and that just makes the FIA’s weak attitude (otherwise known as ‘let them race, but only sometimes, when we feel like it, sort of, but maybe not, oh we don’t really know what we are doing or what we mean’) look even more pronounced.

 

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The Pinnacle...........what is your problem lol

 

Bingo

 

Huge difference between what went down at Silverstone versus the other races you mention:
Silverstone was a) Max' turn and Hamilton torpedoed him off the road which then b) ended Max race and gave Lewis the win. Maximum of points for a completely unacceptable behavior. Hamilton should have been given the black flag after that provoked accident.

Monza was a racing incident that took both of them out. Fair enough.
Nothing happened in Brazil and Saudi that ended the race of either driver.

 

Hamilton barely touched Max. Max should have bailed.

 

I agree. The potential consequences of going off track or of car-to-car contact aren’t severe enough. It’s a simple risk/reward calculation, and the risks are not high enough.

 

LOL, he should have bailed at one of the fastest corners on the calendar and after committing to it, turning in—leaving HAM enough room—and just trying to make it out of the corner while still remaining on the track?

You obviously are imagining these guys racing at 7/10 or like you driving to get groceries. You also seem to forget that HAM got a penalty for that desperate, amateur move.

There’s a reason almost no passing is done at Copse unless you have a huge advantage over the guy you’re following. Even so, the fact that Leclerc ended up off the track after HAM repeated his hair-brained maneuver tells you a lot about what happens with an overtake attempt at that corner.

If that was HAM on the receiving end of a move like that he’d be moaning like a stuck pig and so would all his adoring zealots, er, fans.

 

When was the last time a driver was black flagged in F1? I can’t remember that happening in recent memory. It’ll never happen unless the driver does a ‘Dan Ticktum’. Calling for that isn’t realistic for any driver.

Monza was not a racing incident. It was all Max, and, in my opinion, is him behaving a certain way because the FIA rules are ambiguous. He seems to believe that even if he misses the first part of a chicane, as long as he makes a dive bomb attempt to get onto the second part, he’s ok. He did it again and again this year. Rules need clarifying.

 

But it was the Max 'fans' that were doing as noted above. To the point of being a bit crazy on social media driven by large mouth idiocy of Horner and Marko because Max' tactic utterly failed and they needed a blame focus of LH.

LH was penalized and won the race - as directed by the Stewards/FIA. So there is no argument about punishment or blame. Blame was not fully placed on LH either alone. Simple FACT - Max opted for this and it failed and he paid. Too short sighted to think P2 would keep his lead. His car didnt go over to LH on its own guidance. Max turned into a drifting LH.

Charles showed better tactical awareness later. Same corner but a rational outcome. Max forced his way into this accident.

Max lost his title here. He had it handed back to him in Yas. Such is F1 breaks and stupidity for 2021.

Max has changed zero since he RUINED his teams cars and race in Baku with Ricci. His style is forcing a crash potential on another driver. He keeps losing that battle. He won a title in spite of his lack of skill and strategic thinking in my opinion. Brake late, dive run others off or crash LOL. This is heralded as skill now??

Skill, tact and awareness = FA not Max. FA is the driver Max thinks he is but isnt.

 

More hate filled drivel.

 

That's it and if the 2022 cars are much closer that attitude will bite him in the ass as more drivers will be battling for a win and won't have as much to lose as Hamilton.

He needs some manners knocking in to him, let's hope they are closely matched next season.

 

It's just nonsense as far as I'm concerned.

The Silverstone accident is 100% Hamilton's fault. Max was so far ahead, Lewis literally torpedoed him. And by looking at his line he did it on purpose. Black flag.

 

A small minority here would like him to keep going in F1.
A big majority would like him to keep going in F1 only to see him bite the dust once more.

 

Maybe he can change the tat to "still I cry"

 

The only reason he was able to come so close because he never lifted as he should've. He demonstrated it was possible to overtake there later on in the same space. Leclerc was on the same line as Max was.

 

Cwy

 

ummmmm not so sure about that. Schumacher was blindingly fast in the Mercedes Group C car... Jochen Mass has been on record that he was faster than all the other guys, and nobody could figure out why.... that is how he got to Eddie Jordan's attention... through Mass.

 

Michael Schumacher owed his career more to Willi Weber than to Mercedes, IMO.

It's Webber who spotted him in FFord and F Koenig, took him under his wing in his F3 team.

As his manager, it's probably Weber who got him the job at Mercedes and le drive at Jordan.

 

That's not what I heard: MS was not faster than Frentzen and the third driver (forgot the name). They were all equally good.

As william says it was Willi Weber who paid Jordan a nice bundle of $ for a test drive at Silverstone. That's where Eddie thought they screwed up the timing or that MS took a short cut because they couldn't believe their eyes and his lap times.

The relevance of the Sauber C cars was that they taught MS how to bring an ailing car home and how to drive around a problem. Something he did brilliantly in a F1 car in France IIRC when he lost a gear.

 

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There were 4 drivers in Mercedes Junior Team. Hans-Harald Frentzen, Karl Wendlinger, Michael Schumacher and Fritz Kreutzpointer.