Buyer Beware: 2012 458 Italia VIN ZFF67NFA5C0183128

They are the worst, stay away.

 

In 2019 when i was searching for a 458 i came across some of their listings, rite away their presentation and cars seemed fishy...its 2021 but this dealer operates like the stereotypical 1990's "used car salesman" dealership. Some people have no integrity or ethics..Good thing Dan posted this.

 

Yeah some dealers can be sctechy. I looked at a “barely used” F8 spider a couple weeks ago. Not in my state. Car was beautiful and appeared flawless. Prices was reasonable by todays market. Pulled carfax. It showed “headlight replaced due to crack” which I thought was odd. I was able to find out who replaced the light and get repair records from the local shop that did the work. It was a big time front end collision with a bill of nearly 50k. Lol. I called the dealer on it and he just said “fair enough” but I assume someone will buy it.

 

RCorsa- perhaps cite the vin# here so no one unknowingly buys the car? Perhaps the seller also?

 

Carrio motorcars is a huge scam. Big bait and switch dealership. I almost got a car from them and glad I walked away. Dan NormalGuy just had quite the experience with them that turned to crap also

 

I was sent an email about this thread... Yeah I can tell you that after posting the video I've now received about 20 people contacting me and telling me their stories and experiences with Carrio Motorcars... They are all pretty terrible.

I have a follow up video coming out tomorrow morning as they called me repeatedly and tried to backpedal. It got ugly.

It's not CNC level stuff but it's enough to avoid at all costs. I promised Meg I wouldn't go down a rabbit hole on this one like I did with CNC.

 

It's listed now at Prestige Auto Mall in Ohio... Used 2012 Ferrari 458 Italia For Sale at Prestige Auto Mall | VIN: ZFF67NFA5C0183128

 

Thank you so much for this! I was starting the process of buying this car when I ran across this thread.

 

Great info, CLD! The lesson is always do your research first, not after things feel slimy. Just a simple search on "reviews" can tell you all you need to know.

Sorry to hear of the crap FChatters have experienced. Always call these fraudsters out, and put them on blast at every opportunity.

 

Normal Guy Supercar, I just watched your latest video. I couldn't watch the whole thing. Just listening to this guy trying to ingratiate himself by repeated nuance and couching and re-couching the "situation" - and, then trying to sell you the car and ask for your future business - was too much. The guy comes across as someone who is a well-practiced professional survivalist CYA schmuck more than anything else. BTW, NGS, you are a super nice guy for tolerating him.

 

Wow glad to see your post as I called the dealer today to inquire about the blue 458 and he told me Only under the front bumper was damaged and replaced for $3500. But it is selling from different dealer as listed on Autotrader.

 

I’d like to bump this thread once more, to warn anyone that may be interested, that this car is up for sale again. Same mileage after the previous dealership failed to sell it.

 

Who is selling it?


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... advertised with "clean carfax"

 

Can someone post a link to the ad/seller so we’re aware?


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https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-for-sale/listing/ZFF67NFA5C0183128/2012-ferrari-458-italia/?sponsoredVehiclePosition=2

 

Interesting, the actual dealer who owns and is selling the car is an official Volkswagen dealership in Brooklyn. A simple call to the general manager should do some good.

It is Brooklyn Volkswagen.


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According to Brooklyn VW, the car is in the process of being listed at another auction.

Reported to the sales manager of the dealership who currently owns the car.

 

Did they say anything about a salvage title? The listing at Brooklyn VW listed it as no damage history. Probably with multiple auctions, these things might disappear in all the transactions.

 

Poor car. It needs a loving home.

 

Maybe they’ll take $90k. Could make a great track car.

 

Still shows up on Carfax's "cars for sale" site with no mention of any issues. And it's not the only 458/488 with a suspect history. There is a red 488 Spider listed at $239 out of Florida. It has $40K miles, of which 30K are a total black hole as far as maintenance records being available, and it has changed hands something like 6 times. 2 years ago when I was looking at ZR1s, I had a dealer admit to me after I asked questions that they had "fixed" the front end of the car and made sure the incident did not "make it onto carfax".

Probably best to work only with Ferrari dealers and get a CPO car. There will be more of these salvage rebuilds appearing on car lots in the aftermath of Ian. The area it hit (Sanibel and Captiva) are very wealthy enclaves and it is likely there were many exotic cars in that area.

Caveat Emptor...

 

+1 to Caveat Emptor. Sometimes in life we get caught up, whether it's a business deal or something like cars which is a great outlet for the daily grind. But at the end of the day, it boils down to who you do business with and what their reputation is. I'm currently working with a seller on the forum and would rather not deal with the nightmare of dealing with someone not on in this community.