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Fitting Carbon Fibre winglets

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by H00dedclaw, Jan 31, 2016.

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  1. H00dedclaw

    H00dedclaw Rookie

    Oct 24, 2015
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    Hi Chaps I fancy doing the upgrade is it a DIY job or take to dealer, clearly you cant easy reach round to undo the bolts form what i see is it a under tray off job which for me would be dealer, i wondered if it was a panel in the front boot.. cant find anything on the net explaining it
     
  2. luvair

    luvair Formula 3
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    Jun 4, 2005
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    When I pursued was told, the front bumper needed to be removed. Not possible to remove from just underneath.
     
  3. synergy

    synergy Formula Junior

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    I just bought a set of these in CF as well and the dealer told me the entire front bumper needs to be removed. Owell....still worth it IMO
     
  4. Capristo Exhaust

    Dec 20, 2007
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    Yes, can confirm that the front bumper has to be removed to mount the winglets.

    Best

    Ignacio
     
  5. RC33

    RC33 Formula Junior

    Nov 29, 2005
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    Can anyone advise how does the front bumper winglets actually benefit?
    Where does the winglets remove/relieve heat from?
     
  6. H00dedclaw

    H00dedclaw Rookie

    Oct 24, 2015
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    Thanks guys wonder what the charge for bumper removal would be !!! Winglets are £600 odd ...winglets unless I'm wrong are down force airflow not cooling ..but I guess the rads benefit as well


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  7. rockitman

    rockitman F1 Veteran

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    they are for front end down force.
     
  8. boeckman2003

    boeckman2003 Karting

    Oct 7, 2015
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    Nothing to do with heat transfer, they bend for more down force. There is a 458 Italia book on amazon that goes through all of it. Pretty cool.
     
  9. rockitman

    rockitman F1 Veteran

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    I would estimate 2 hours Ferrari dealer labor to get them installed.
     
  10. RC33

    RC33 Formula Junior

    Nov 29, 2005
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    Just found this link ... posted here for easy reading.

    "The Show

    Two flexible winglets. This is what the Ferrari 458 Italia starts with. Placed in the lower front apron, these aero-elastic elements their nature very well. These generate downforce and reduce the drag as speed increases by minimizing the radiator intake surface.

    Nevertheless, when you look at them, you wouldn’t say that you’re dealing with active aerodynamics. This hidden nature of the aforementioned twin elements isn’t random. Ferrari wanted the 458 Italia to rely on discrete aero bits.

    For example, you shouldn’t be fooled by the moderate size of the air intakes placed adjacent to the rear side windows. These feed the V8 using an air ram effect that offers 5 HP at top speed.

    There are vents placed inward of the headlamps that feed the front brakes with cool air and then dispose of it via the outlets that sit on the exterior of the light clusters.

    Lean and look inside the rear wheel arches. Here you’ll find air intakes that not only serve an engine cooling purpose, but also reduce drag by neutralizing the air currents created at the sides of the vehicle. The air they take it is sent out though the grilles on the inner side of the taillights.

    The engine compartment is also cooled by air collected from under the car, as well as through the intakes at the sides of the rear window. As for the aforementioned sections placed inboard of the rear lights, these also hold the radiators for the clutch and gearbox oil.

    At the end of the Ferrari 458 Italia, we find two elements working together. While the rear diffuser is pretty generous in size, the boot only holds a small lip spoiler that generates downforce. Yes you tuners, this means that you’re exaggerating with your huge fixed wings!

    Despite the aforementioned subtle aero work, the Ferrari 458 Italia is more aerodynamic and generates greater downforce compared to the F430. Take it to its top speed and the air will add about a quarter of the car’s own weight."

    FERRARI 458 Italia Review (Page 2)
     
  11. Jafooli

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    If the winglets work by flexible deformation, shouldn't carbon fibre perform differently due to it being a much stuffer material?
     
  12. Depreciating Asset

    Depreciating Asset Formula Junior
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    I did this myself a few months ago. Nothing difficult, just a lot of fasteners to remove. I sorta slid the front cover off and onto a weight bench that was the perfect height. From there I could access the bolts. Also added CF frunk trim while I was at it.

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  13. FerrariCognoscenti

    FerrariCognoscenti Formula 3

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    Nice!
    Can you post photos of the frunk trim?


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  14. Depreciating Asset

    Depreciating Asset Formula Junior
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  15. FerrariCognoscenti

    FerrariCognoscenti Formula 3

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    Very cool, and even cooler you can see it with the hood closed near the wipers!


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  16. fazooley

    fazooley Formula Junior

    Apr 15, 2005
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    Oh yea. I've been dying to do this. For anyone interested in changing the winglets Dan NormalGuy made a video on this also. This guys videos are priceless for 458 owners

     
  17. Jafooli

    Jafooli Rookie

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    I'm more interested in how these actually work and if carbon fibre being stiffer effects the performance.

    Are there any videos or animations that explain these?
     
  18. FerrariCognoscenti

    FerrariCognoscenti Formula 3

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    The 458 Challenge car completely removed them, so I wouldn’t be too concerned, though it has other aero enhancements.


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  19. Nuvolari

    Nuvolari F1 Veteran
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    If you take a moment to articulate your OEM front winglets through their travel manually you will see that the 'flex' takes place where the wing mounts and not in the wing itself. The wing is entirely rigid regardless of the material of construction. As such the whether the wings are the OEM ones or the carbon ones it makes no difference to performance.
     
  20. fazooley

    fazooley Formula Junior

    Apr 15, 2005
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    The CF ones still flex like the original ones, I had the dealer install them last month
     
  21. VelocityTexas

    VelocityTexas Formula Junior
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    Carbon fiber winglets were a factory option so functionality would be the same regardless of material.
     

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