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Discussion in '348/355' started by Robb, May 19, 2015.

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  1. ShineKen

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    You guys are killin' me :).

    The early 355 Challenge cars are standard road going 355's with a challenge conversion package purchased and installed at the Ferrari dealer. These cars have VIN and are actually street legal.

    The red 355 challenge car posted from Italy was a road going pre-airbag car with carbon sport seats originally, then later turned into a challenge car with challenge seats and roll bar and now reverted back to it's original seats and steering wheel and non roll bar form. Everything else on the car is pretty damn challenged out.

    Challenge cars have super stiff bushings, super stiff springs, different valved (more aggressive) shocks, and a "secret" re-map of the Bilstein ECU. I've never driven a 355 Challenge, but I'd imagine it's not ideal for the road. Most likely superb for a smooth road course.

    Anyone buying that car and looking to take it on the road frequently should look at changing out to OE bushings or monoball bushings from M-tecnologia, OE shocks and springs, and original mapped Bilstein damper ECU. Good news for you. I have original springs and damper ECU available for sale. You just gotta find the standard shocks :). If you can put together a Fiorano Handling Pack setup even better. You just need to find the springs once you've found the standard shocks. The car already comes with the same front and rear anti-roll bars as FHP and the quick steering rack. Also has the challenge drop links. I'd also look into getting the least squeaky pads you can find.

    In short, this car is close to having the best of all the performance and visual goodies Ferrari offered for the 355. It's just a set of dampers, an FHP damper ECU, a set of FHP springs away from being the ultimate "street" 355. A full proper exhaust system wouldn't hurt either :).
     
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  2. JAM1

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    I think it depends what you’re looking for in a particular car. For me the appeal of street driven challenge cars like the 348/355 is the visceral experience of it all. The drama. The noise. The harshness. The absurdity of driving a race car on the road is the appeal for me. I wasn’t fortunate enough to live in the 50s and 60s where this experience was more commonplace with cars such as TRs, SWBs and the like running around. Now everything is so dulled down with adjustable blah blah nanny blah blah stuff it takes cars like a challenge version to feel completely engaged to me. I’ve got several cars and plenty ride better or are much faster, but for me the raucous challenge cars are the purest most authentic Ferrari experience you can get this side of $500k and I love them for it.
     
  3. 308 GTB

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    I bought my 1995 F355 Challenge ten years ago. For the first two years, I drove it to local tracks like Pocono Raceway and NJMP Lightning. It was summertime driving with no air conditioning, windows open, 2200 lb/in F and 900 lb/in R Challenge springs, and a Challenge exhaust. It wasn't comfortable driving on local roads but highway driving was just fine...



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    Getting stuck in traffic was no fun...


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    These days I have my car trailered to the track and arrive more refreshed...


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    :)
     
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  4. mclaudio

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    While a race-setup 355 Challenge is not a street 355, it works just fine on public backroads and at the track. It even drives ok on dirt…and when raining.
     

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    And sometimes it can be cleaned and allowed to enter some Ferrari Concours event. :)
     

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  6. mclaudio

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    Amen.
     
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  7. JAM1

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    Yeah the long rides can get to be too much but buzzing 1/2 hour or 45 min away for lunch or a cars and coffee is great on the right roads.

    Separately, I spoke go Jim at Pocono a couple weeks ago and plan to use them for track support this summer up in the NE so I’m sure we’ll get some track time together which should be fun. :)
     
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  8. 308 GTB

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    Right, Claudio. Proper rain tires, look for dull tarmac and follow the rain line. The F355 Challenge does very well in the rain...



     
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    Joe,

    My limit was 1 1/2 hours at which point I had to get out of the car and gather my wits...and get gas! :D

    Jim and his team are the best at track support. Here they are tending to dirty alternator cable contacts to get me back out on the track...


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    I'm looking forward to seeing you at the track.

    Barry
     
  10. ShineKen

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    I’d imagine any Ferrari guy would be just as bewildered seeing this randomly out in the wild as they would seeing an F40. You must get a ton of folks staring :).


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    And leaning out car windows taking cell phone pictures. :D
     
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    Out of the 3,500+ GTB owners, not a single one selling during the Scottsdale, AZ auctions

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    Last month while moving into our new home, the driveway was full of moving people that I had to park mine in the woods. I got out and thought this might be a cool pic.
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    You've been MIA for awhile. Glad you're back :).
     
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    Retired over 7 years ago and been more busy since. Lots of sticky cars done and a ton of golf lol
     
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  18. day355

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    Does this car for sale still have the front and rear anti - roll bars FHP fitted actually ?
     
  19. ShineKen

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    I wouldn’t know for certain. But assuming the car converted to challenge spec and everything else seems to be there, I dont see why it wouldn’t have the roll bars or why one would remove them.

    I can understand why the owner would remove the roll cage and put back the original seats. For more comfortability. Removing the roll bars wouldn’t improve comfortability.
     
  20. day355

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    Yes, without putting the car on a lift, we don't know what's really left of a Challenge.
     
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    I like that darker red interior. Very nice.
     
  23. Wsmatau

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    Forgive my ignorance, but what is the chrome piece attached to the rollbar?
     
  24. ShineKen

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    Doesn't look like a factory roll bar to me. Nice attempt though :).
     
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