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Discussion in '612/599' started by Nicofr, Dec 17, 2011.

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  1. Nicofr

    Nicofr Karting

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    #1 Nicofr, Dec 17, 2011
    Hello,
    Do you have any experience with H&R sway bars and springs on a 599 GTB?
    What is about the quality of the H&R products?
    I want to improve the handling and lower my car from 2007. Any experience?

    Do I have to change the front and rear sway bars or the rear only?

    The HGTE handling pack includes the wheels that I do not want. But it seems that it includes ecu tuning for the suspension too. It is certainly necessary if we change the spring, isn't it?

    The novitec springs are very expensive. Is that justified?

    Thank you for your feedback,

    Nicofr
     
  2. F1 MONZA

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    #2 F1 MONZA, Dec 17, 2011
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    Let me know too. I too am thinking about the HGTE Kit. I am not sure about the other two. I did have H & R on my Bmw. It was jusk okay.. Not sure if I would install on a Ferrari.
    After all the HGTE is a product from Ferrari. When you sell the car you may run into problems.. The HGTE is a safer bet all around.

    Just my thoughts...

    John
     
  3. bayareaferrari

    bayareaferrari Formula Junior

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    #3 bayareaferrari, Apr 26, 2015
    Refreshing this...Has anyone put the H&R front and rear anti sways bars on their 599? Did it help flatten it out?
     
  4. bayareaferrari

    bayareaferrari Formula Junior

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    #4 bayareaferrari, Apr 27, 2015
    No update here...I guess that tells me what is needed--no one has done it, or it was a waste.
     
  5. tazandjan

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    #5 tazandjan, Apr 28, 2015
    Why not just put the HGTE springs and rear anti-roll bar on her? Engineered to work well and lots of folks have experience with the set-up. Since it is OEM, it adds to the value of the 599 where some folks will not like the H&R parts being on her.
     
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  6. bayareaferrari

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    #6 bayareaferrari, Apr 28, 2015
    That is the plan..Ordered the HGTE items..just bolt on.
     
  7. Redneck Slim

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    #7 Redneck Slim, Apr 28, 2015
    Can you be more specific about your issues with H&R products?
     
  8. 412monzaindy

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    #8 412monzaindy, Apr 29, 2015
    I have a new set of HGTE springs still in the box if you are interested.

    Send me a PM
     
  9. leon2

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    #9 leon2, Jan 14, 2022
    Still available?
     
  10. 412monzaindy

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    #10 412monzaindy, Jan 14, 2022
    Sorry..long gone
     
  11. George Vosburgh

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    #11 George Vosburgh, Jan 14, 2022
    It's my understanding that the HGTE springs working with the magnetorheological shocks increases the likelihood of the shocks leaking.
     
  12. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #12 tazandjan, Jan 14, 2022
    George- First I have heard about that.
     
  13. George Vosburgh

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    #13 George Vosburgh, Jan 14, 2022
    Really?? It could be just a more aggressive style of driving that makes the shocks leak more but it seems that more HGTE cars seem to mention it. It's possible a mechanic mentioned it to me. If I'm wrong, I apologize! My shocks are still slightly leaking at 45K, but not enough to justify pulling them yet.
     
  14. Skidkid

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    #14 Skidkid, Jan 14, 2022
    So are my rears, fronts were done by the dealer before selling me the car. I am thinking I will pull them and send to get them refurbished and see how that works. I can do the suspension, bumper respray, etc. while they are away.
     
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  15. DZ-96

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    #15 DZ-96, Jan 15, 2022
    I think driving regular is better for the shocks than standing weeks or months.
    But they are not produced for the eternity.
    Sooner or later they all starts to leak.

    Daniel
     
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  16. Temuri

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    #16 Temuri, Jan 24, 2022
    I have just recently installed h&r sway bars , both, front and rear. Really happy with it. Car is much more stable. Like it very much.
     
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  17. bamaman

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    #17 bamaman, Jan 24, 2022
    What is the size difference front and rear for the HR sway bars?
     
  18. Temuri

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    #18 Temuri, Jan 25, 2022
    25mm rear, 24mm front
     
  19. Temuri

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    #19 Temuri, Jan 25, 2022
  20. George Vosburgh

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    #20 George Vosburgh, Jan 25, 2022
    Is this with standard springs or with HGTE/ H&R springs?
     
  21. Temuri

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    #21 Temuri, Jan 26, 2022
    standard springs
     
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