How offensive are special edition clone body kits?

I don't see how not hanging out with folks that aren't afraid to drive their extremely high-priced exotics is exclusionary. The person who doesn't enjoy their company is the one missing out on "loving everybody."

 

1) To build an even halfway respectable "clone" of a Pista, you're still spending serious money

2) People that buy Pistas often don't care about crashing them. To the very wealthy, experiences often are worth far more than possessions.

3) Part of the Pista's magic is not just the looks but the driving experience itself.

"Build a clone of an SF90, so if I crash it, I won't feel bad" is pretty silly.

It sounds to me like you're trying to convince us it's okay to be a poseur. You need to convince only one person here, and it's none of us.

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I agree if you live in a 3rd world country, are a kid, do it tongue in cheek, or say a real upgrade that entails actual performance swaps with the real deal. (i.e., convert NSX to NSX Type-R, etc.) Some vintage cars where modern technology actually can make the 'clone' even superior to the original, but we're not talking about Porsche Speedsters here or Cobras.

Do you have a specific Ferrari clone you are referring? Perhaps that could provide context.

 

^ After these two posts ^, your reply is this:

@Golden Steed How old are you?

I think you may want to click this link

 

Not insecurities. At least not for all. Sometimes the delta between your normal car + body kit and the special edition one is 100% or 200% of what you paid total. I.e a 599gtb + gto kit is around 250k whereas a 599GTO is 650k. Same for a 360 Modena vs a genuine Stradale.

Personally, I love how the Stradale looks but a real one is F1 only and $250k to $300k. Buy a gated 360 and spend $50k for a clean kit and wheels.

 

I ask not to insult, but because I clearly said I don't denigrate ^ kids ^ that make kit cars. I mean if you're 12, and have your mindset on making a Fauxrari, I actually respect that a lot.

Which is it? Do you stand by your words or not?

If you stand by your words, why would you be afraid of your old posts?

Who is the one instigating a 'pissing' contest, the person arguing one should be honest and real, or the person defending fakery?

What else would you call a grown adult that drives around a kit car of an Enzo below beside a poseur? Sincere? I would seriously be embarrassed driving, No; even being in the passenger seat of the car below *FULL STOP*
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We do agree with one thing, we definitely have clear respective opinions. Good thing the kit car sellers have folks like you that love them. You're right, no skin off my back. Enjoy!

 

I love that you use your car the way you do, Bob. I'm sure I've mentioned this previously but when I was a kid in the 80's my Dad's buddy had a Daytona Spyder that he daily drove for years...at least a decade. No power steering, left the top down everywhere. At the time it was a $150k car, not a 2.5 million car, but on the other hand $150k meant something entirely different in 1981 than it does today! Anyway, it is in the spirit of you guys that I daily drive my humble Mondial and 912. someday if I can afford a 330gtc, I promise I'll daily that as well! Cheers!

 

I would not personally be comfortable driving a replica car with Ferrari badge on it. A corvette based McBurnie Daytona Spyder with no Ferrari badges on it might be fun! I dunno.

The thing about rebodying a real Ferrari into a different real Ferrari is a tougher call. In theory I don't find much wrong with it, in the abstract. You have a 250 GTE. You want a 250 SWB. If you can find someone to do the job right I'm not going to spit on your car. Most people do it for what I consider to be the wrong reason, which is to do it so that others see a different car, not so that they themselves see the body style they want. That's the difference to me.

Then there are the "built from scratch" cars like the GTO Engineering 250 SWB Revival. Basically a 250 SWB built from parts GTO learned to fabricate over the years to support real 250 SWB's. Weird because it didn't come from Maranello, but on the other hand lots of old GTO's and SWB's that were raced have been rebuilt from the ground up several times. I dunno. I'd take one.

 

funny how you managed to appear as insecure as him. Shrugs.

 

Lol, if you say so.

 

You could’ve approached that so many different ways…
I can’t imagine ever just wanting to show up to a guy’s house to show off my Ferrari so I can feel better than him.

 

I lived two streets away from him and drove by there everyday on my way to and from work.

It was simply just ball busting like normal guys do. No different than calling someone out on the basketball court and smoking them one on one. He actually stopped by after that to check out a 458 I had after and we both got a good laugh about it.

Some people aren’t so sensitive.

I think you’re reading too much into it.

 

If you say so..

 

Gotcha. Never met you, so I have no reason to think you're anything but a cool person. Maybe just the story telling made it come across the wrong way. Apologies.

 

Thank you but no apology necessary my friend.

I have to remember that the written word here lacks the subtleties that come with real conversation. I can see how without hearing any intonation or seeing my facial expressions my post could come off wrong.

Best wishes.

 

There is a lot of moral confusion here.
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Say a person kidnaps someone and holds them against their will.

Kidnapper arrested and admitted to the crime during sentencing committed to jail.

The kidnapper then pleads hypocrisy saying society is 'kidnapping' them.

ROFL
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The humiliation, outrage, the attitude was directed toward a particular MO: A person lying about their car.

Some folks like you see nothing wrong with it. I admit; at the end of the day, it's trivial. I think it does more harm to the individual anyway.

 

This story got me thinking. I agree it's not classy to upstage those less fortunate for the simple act of aspirational participation.

A lot of contexts is required.

The key is their attitude once they have their clone. In @HotShoe's story, it was clear the person was engaged in braggadocio (King ****). Think the classic "Fast n Furious" black F355. Made even worse if you consider the car is a clone.

Does anybody here take umbrage at the character of Vin Diesel/Paul Walker reactions? (besides, of course, the stupidity of racing on a public road.)

@HotShoe went one step further and didn't just drive away and just mock him, sounds like he was pretty nice and talked petrol afterward.

One time I was in my Ferrari and saw a Toyota Yaris with all the badges stripped off but with Ferrari badging, even had the side shields. I drove by and gave him a big thumbs up! Didn't yell at home or badger him. I sincerely enjoyed this person's 'interpretation.'

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Going back to @Golden Steed's stance. Some folks like him not only see nothing wrong with it but actually encourage it.

I agree it's trivial end of the day - but no, not boys with measuring sticks comparing phalluses, with something fake, there's nothing there to measure.

Some folks may be fine bringing a soccer ball painted like a basketball to play hoops. It doesn't ruin my day, but it does leave me scratching my head. Especially if the person that brought the soccer ball claims it's a 'real' basketball. Let's just say, I personally would wait until I have a real ball.

 

There was a nice 599 GTB that had a well done GTO conversion that was for sale at Chicago Motorcars (attached). I like it as long as it's not upbadged to a 599 GTO. Be proud of what you own. If I owned a relatively standard specced Rosso Corsa 488 GTB/spider I'd do the conversion depending on the price. I think it's cool they offer this for people who want these cars but don't want to actually buy them if they are double the price of non-special editions. Image Unavailable, Please Login

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Well I for one don’t mind a nice classic reproduction if it was gonna be a driver (ie Shelby or Mustang)

Myself I would not modify a modern car to mimic the look of its higher end sibling. And Inroll my eyes when I see someone doing it….


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