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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by DM1, Jan 21, 2018.

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  1. LordVader458

    LordVader458 Rookie

    Aug 28, 2019
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    I am the current owner. I have a great relationship with the dealer. Unfortunately in todays market it seems online auctions are the way to go and my dealer does kot do it that way.
    The old school dealers are fast learning that they need to have a online presence. Posting to the different websites such as autotrader cargurus etc and then waiting for a phone call does not seem to be the way to sell cars these days. People want a sense of community and perhaps validation? which is provided by peers online. I may be totally wrong but the numbers seem to support this theory. Your thoughts? As a seller the biggest advantage I see is that the actual sale price of the car is known while with dealers you never really know what the cars sell for.


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  2. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    I am with u.
    U will get more money than from the dealer on BAT. BAT is the place to sell right now.
    U did right, I expect u will be fine.


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  3. mikesufka

    mikesufka F1 Veteran
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    Beautiful car !

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  4. PCJR

    PCJR Formula Junior
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    The Rosso Corsa/ Blk leather car at Algar Philadelphia Ferrari sold for 475k
    1 owner w/2800 miles
     
  5. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    Wow that was fast !
    Looks like another red one with black stripes popped up with 6600 miles offered by Merit Partners $499k. I bought my first Speciale years ago from Merit Partners… they are awesome!


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  6. plastique999

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    I am rooting for you… I have a twin spec and your car is a perfect spec!


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  7. MANDALAY

    MANDALAY F1 World Champ
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  8. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    What ???
    What were sale prices of Speciales in Australia a year ago?


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  9. Stams

    Stams Formula Junior
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    I could be wrong but this appears to be the car that was for sale in Scottsdale earlier this winter.


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  10. Eilig

    Eilig F1 Rookie
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    In current market, that was a good buy.
     
  11. PCJR

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  12. MANDALAY

    MANDALAY F1 World Champ
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    IIRC $1,300,000 Aperta

    Note not that many hear so its very rare to see one.
     
  13. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    Well this should be interesting!
    Of course perfect spec IMO.
    I thought you would like this Used 2015 Ferrari 458 Speciale Coupe for $599900 on Autotrader http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/25428579


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  14. italiafan

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    Looks just like yours!
    Beauty.
     
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  15. willcrook

    willcrook Formula 3

    Feb 3, 2009
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    friend of mine just bought a beautiful example here for £380k

    I remember someone here laughing at the suggestion the Speciale would be worth more than the Pista but it's already a reality
     
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  16. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    I may be a bit premature, but I believe the Speciale is this generation's F40 in terms of future desirability and values that will continue to increase.
     
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  17. LordVader458

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    Hmmmm so I should withdraw my speciale?


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  18. ScrappyB

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    The issue I see comparing it with the F40, is that one is a bespoke model while the other is a modified version of a base car which was produced in relatively high numbers.
     
  19. schao

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    I can understand that point of view: F40 the last of the Enzo cars and 458 Speciale/Aperta the last of the Pininfarina cars (and NA V8).
     
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  20. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    People still sell F40s, maybe buy them later, it's really up to the individual preference...

    @ScrappyB
    The world has changed, a lot, since the F40, the F40, you could say was a transition from the 288 due to the racing rules at the time, (both turbo V8s)
    But, what I really mean is to not say the Speciale is equivalent to the F40 (the Speciale having well more than twice the production) but in terms of both being and end of an era car (F40 was last Enzo involvement) that representing something truly special that will never be repeated. The Speciale being the end of Luca's era, last CEO with direct connection to Enzo, also, as we all now realize, will truly never be repeated.

    Yes, the Speciale has a base car, it was not a one-off, but in terms of desirability, look around, there are very few Speciale's on the market, and in terms of overall production, I dare say there are about as many F40s for sale as Speciales at this time (i.e. using a 2.5 ratio, saying for every F40 2.5 Speciale's were produced) (not including the 458SA) and prices of Speciale's are tending upward.

    Looking to the future, I assume there are many aspiring future Ferrari owners, and because the future production appears to be a mix of hybrid and all electric (and never again NA only without turbo, without hybrid), those desiring a more authentic experience will tend to look at what came before and I believe in future years that will only increase the desirability (as hindsight is 20/20) of the Speciale and therefore, increasing prices due to lack of cars on the market...

    Anyway, maybe I am a bit premature here, let's recheck this in 5 years, by then, it should be even more apparent :)
     
  21. schao

    schao Formula Junior

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    You certainly have storage room for it, and don't have pressing needs for whatever cash proceeds you will receive from its sale. How well diversified are you with your financial and tangible assets? Would you want your grandchildren to inherit this car or a few hundred thousand dollars more in cash, or some other asset? You, sir, have a first world problem, best wishes to you.
     
  22. nmcclure

    nmcclure Formula Junior
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    Uh, if someone wants to pay 1.3 for my SA, it's yours!
     
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  23. Eilig

    Eilig F1 Rookie
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    Spec?
     
  24. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    I second that


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  25. willcrook

    willcrook Formula 3

    Feb 3, 2009
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    458 SA's have sold near to what is 1m usd here before, not that far off market value!
     

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