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LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari' started by Ale55andr0, Dec 24, 2019.

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  1. Johnny_Bravo

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    Well, if they build a car with the specs I mentioned, I'm pretty sure it will be faster than a car that weighs 1500 kg and has electronic assists.
    As long as the driver is good enough of course.
     
  2. DeSoto

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    Well, the Porsche 918 and the Ferrari SF90 are faster than most hard core sports cars. Torque vectoring and all that stuff can do miracles.

    But in the end it's about the last thing you said: it's hard to sell cars that are hard to drive. Even the 911s that come with a roll cage and a comically huge rear wing have auto gearbox and GPS.
     
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  3. Johnny_Bravo

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    They are also more modern and have a ton of horsepower.

    True, but I was talking about driving them to their absolute limit in order to get the fastest lap times.
    A car with the specs I mentioned would not be so hard to drive due to being very light weight and with a lot of downforce.
     
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  8. Johnny_Bravo

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    I doubt they are faster than a T50.
     
  9. willcrook

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    they could be tbh as the t50 hasn't been decided to be the fastest, either in a straight line or on a track
     
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  11. Solid State

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    Those dates are deceiving. The SP3 was 'introduced' to the public in 2021. Perhaps production is 2023 but the car was unveiled last year not next year.
     
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  12. Eilig

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    Why not just stuff a V12 into a Speciale and call it a day.
     
  13. REALZEUS

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    That is wrong on so many planes...
     
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  14. Eilig

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    Just like it was wrong to put 3.3L V12 in a 250 LM..... ? :)
     
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  15. REALZEUS

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    We are living in 2022 now. A new Ferrari hypercar should have an F1 grade carbon monocoque, not a chassis from the V8 of the 2010s...
     
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  16. Eilig

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    You say that like its a good thing.

    Should it have haptic screens, hybrid motors, and GPFs as well?
     
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  17. REALZEUS

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    Good or bad, it is what it is. Some things are better (performance, technology), some things are worse (regulations, social outcry). Nothing we can do about it though, other than to adapt.


    I don't care for haptics and screens, but I am all for hybrids, as they contribute to performance, and the GPF doesn't annoy me - a N/A V12 will sound great no matter what - especially since it means better quality of air.
     
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  18. Twosherpaz

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    I think the next supercar will be able to beat the Valkyrie and Project One. You need to think outside the box more. Think LeMans.
     
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  19. REALZEUS

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    It has been confirmed that the LM car will be a prototype that will have nothing to do with any production model.
     
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  20. Johnny_Bravo

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    I sure hope you are right
     
  21. Twosherpaz

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    A prototype racecar is almost like saying XX
     
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  22. inox

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    Very unlikely. Instead you will get a car that you can actually enter.

    If Ferrari decides to embrace turbos, then you might even have more power, but most likely not as good power to weight ratio. Valkyrie is not really targeted against LaFerrari or its successor. It is rather like FXX-K Evo.
     
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  23. REALZEUS

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    I mean real prototypes (like LMP1 cars). For example Peugeot will field this one. Ferrari will use a similar prototype:

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    Respectfully disagree. The Valkyrie is an extreme hypercar, but it is road car at the end of the day. The next LaFerrari will have to compete with it in terms of performance, if Ferrari want to remain at the forefront of hypercars.
     
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  24. maha

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    p1 successor may come in 2024
    https://www.drive.com.au/news/mclaren-p1-hypercar-successor-on-track-for-2024-launch-onwards-report/


    regarding laferrari successor, i don't think ferrari will follow others.. most of the time they want to do something in their own way... but the valkayre and the project one is so old, that ferrari got enough time to set their goal. in future there will obviously be an xx car and may be in future we could also see a road going version of the LMH, if they decide to built it, that would be something extreme. and why not, since initially fia stated Lmh manufacturers need to built at-least 25 homologation cars but later that rule was relaxed and optional now. time will tell....
     
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