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  1. ktu

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    You forgot he didn't finsih strong last races, let Hamiton come back.
     
  2. werewolf

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    Then why change the procedures? Why not just change the director, instead?

    If the procedures were "very clear" and simply broken or violated by a rogue director (and the conspiratorial stewards who supported him) ... then why do the procedures themselves need to change?
     
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  3. william

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    Well, I am quite happy with the outcome, so far. The FIA has been diligent for once.

    Masi is sacked, that's the main thing for me.

    I don't know how that VAR stuff will work. If they work out new unlapping rules it will be perfect.

    Mohammed Ben Sulayem is quite a guy !!! He has done more in a couple of months than Jean Todt during his whole mandate.
     
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  4. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Yes and no one on the planet was thinking this would be changed if Masi was removed from his current role. Max was never the issue in the larger sense or ever was an issue. Not sure why this is being posted at all. The issue was always the FIA and its personnel related to Race Director and how that is structured, rules use/clarification and team communication with that function.
     
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  5. Flavio_C

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    #JUSTICEFORMASI #BRINGBACKMASI #MASIINOURHEARTS
     
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  6. DF1

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    Provide proof of manipulation. Posting further conspiracy is easy. I have a friend who saw black MERCEDES sedan in Monaco today and was seen in Geneva last night lol. Should I go on. POST PROOF!
     
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  7. DF1

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    FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem's proposal in full
    Firstly, to assist the race director in the decision-making process, a Virtual Race Control Room will be created. Alike the Video Assistance Referee (VAR) in football, it will be positioned in one of the FIA Offices as a backup outside the circuit. In real-time connection with the FIA F1 race director, it will help to apply the sporting regulations using the most modern technological tools.

    Secondly, direct radio communications during the race, currently broadcast live by all TVs, will be removed in order to protect the race director from any pressure and allow him to take decisions peacefully. It will still be possible to ask questions to the race director, according to a well-defined and non-intrusive process.

    Thirdly, unlapping procedures behind safety car will be reassessed by the F1 Sporting Advisory Committee and presented to the next F1 Commission prior to the start of the season.

    And finally, I would like to inform you that a new race management team will be put in place starting in Barcelona for the test session.

    Niels Wittich and Eduardo Freitas will act alternatively as Race Director, assisted by Herbie Blash as permanent senior advisor.

    Michael Masi, who accomplished a very challenging job for three years as Formula 1 race director following Charlie Whiting, will be offered a new position within the FIA.
     
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  8. ingegnere

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    BTW, the LOL was obviously lost on you…

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  9. ingegnere

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    #1634 ingegnere, Feb 17, 2022
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    I’m not in court so…. (f…ill in the blank) but if you can’t see the “coincidence” of the FIA bending to Merc demands the day before the “blessed return” maybe you should at least pose yourself some questions about if you are seeing the full picture. In any case, I couldn’t care less but just funny to see how people have taken HAM’s “battle” to heart.
     
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  10. ingegnere

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    Thoughts and prayers..,
     
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  11. furoni

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    Yap, he's ****ed up already!!!
     
  12. furoni

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    We have a saying around here wich could be translated like this "the more you get down, the more we can see your arse"...i guess it perfectly aplies to the FIA and it's new leader....
     
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  13. furoni

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    ..AS for the new race directors, i know a bit about Eduardo, he's got tons of experience as race director, from Karting, to ETCC, FIA GT, WTCC and WEC, so i expect him to do a good job in F.1.
     
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  14. werewolf

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    Sounds like there's plenty of reasons for an "asterisk" connected to this recent FIA announcement ;)
     
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  15. ricksb

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    Wow...that's pretty much what I expected from the outset (not the names, just the actions). There was no way to keep Masi in the position as any decision he would make would be harshly criticized going forward, while the specter of Abu Dhabi would remain fresh for as long as he remained in the position. While I'm certain the howling of fans and social media incessant posting had some effect on the decision, I think the comments of the drivers during the season expressing confusion about rules and regulations was far more impactful (some were supporting Masi the last two weeks, but their words following some of the GP's painted a far different picture).

    I'm going to guess that the changing of the unlapping rules involves a) when an incident occurs, b) how many laps remain, and c) triggers for a red flag situation versus safety car. Not allowing the cars to unlap in Abu Dhabi was probably one of the limited options at that point in the race, but the better move would have been a red flag restart...similar to Baku.
     
  16. ricksb

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    Be resolute and consistent. That's really all it takes (well, having the experience to know what decision to make is important also)
     
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  17. ktu

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    You put a asterisk on Masi yet?
     
  18. SS454

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    Firing Masi does nothing for the sport. Like how is having 2 less experienced guys sharing the work during the season a better solution?

    The biggest flaw in all of F1's procedures is during the Red Flag and it isn't even being addressed. Stop letting teams work on their cars during the red flag, unless it's a tire change due to a significant change in weather conditions. Red Flags should simply freeze the race and there shouldnt be any unfair winners or losers in the process, and then throwing a red flag in a situation like Abu Dhabi would have been a no brainer.
     
  19. Nuvolari

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    I believe that the re-assignment of Masi should come as no surprise to anyone but I think a little perspective is called for. First of all regardless of the direction the FIA took this is a contentious enough issue that any decision can be spun and interpreted to support any narrative you like. Whether or not Masi lost his job or whether or not the rules are changed both sides can easily say 'see that is proof of this or that'. I for one am not going to play that game because I think it is disingenuous and offers little certainty of anything.

    Truth is that there is a lot of moving parts to what is happening and that we will never be made privy to any of them. These invariably fuel rumors of collusion and conspiracy theories which I am never a big fan of. That said I genuinely believe that there has been a lot of back room maneuvering taking place particularly between the FIA and Mercedes to keep all sides happy. Regardless Masi found himself in a position where maintaining the role of Race Director was just too controversial regardless of whether he was right or not.
     
  20. werewolf

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    Great post ^^ from a reasonable guy.

    I've certainly pushed back on many of your posts, but that's because ALL of your posts tend to be worthy of a thoughtful response. My apologies for any offense(s) ...
     
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  21. ktu

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    Im just happy the debate can end about rules 15.3 14.2 blah blah as FIA determined that the rules were broken.
     
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  22. subirg

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    I’m quite impressed with the FIAs set of announcements. They have realised that the 2021 arrangement of allowing a weak race director to be influenced by teams, with no back up to assist him is blatantly ineffective. I suspect that, as part of their assessment of events, the fia also reviewed other events in the season - eg Silverstone, and concluded that multiple errors or inconsistencies were the responsibility of the officials and their set up. The new regulations and personnel seem to make it harder for teams to manipulate the thinking of the officials, and also deal with weak individuals. It is key to increase the degree of separation of the officials from the competitors. This has been done. I believe it is a good step towards a fairer system and is a good first step in restoring the credibility of the FIA. Time to refocus on the 2022 season and move on.
     
  23. Sempre_gilles

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    Masi fired - what a suprise. The FIA did not have the courage to revert his decisions in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix (which would p*ss off the huge Verstappen fan base) but could not neglect the angry huge Hamilton fan base either. And guess who was an easy target for sacrificing as an scapegoat?

    This is just a farcical political decision.
     
  24. Bas

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    When you listen to eduardo speak to drivers (live on TV) he's very articulate and explains everything so clearly. Very good guy. Reminds me of a rugby ref really.
     
  25. william

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    Now some newspapers say that Masi wasn't sacked as a race director, but in fact that he resigned his role.

    If true, that was a sensible decision; his position had become untenable.

    Reversing the result of the Abu Dhabi GP wasn't possible; it would have completely discredited the FIA and damaged F1.
     
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