thanks a lot you two. yes I forgot to post the list. I think we will have new daytonas this year. some replicas? all will be replicas! no ? any infos ? thank you !
I believe I have already, but it was years ago. I have plenty of photos of “it” from different cars, including several non-repainted/-restored examples and those I’ve worked on over the years, but it might take a while to dig some up as my photo files are currently (or still) in quite disorganized. OTOH, if you happen to have a picture of one in your or any other Daytona easily available, you’re also welcome to share. While seeing whether it’s present or not may require getting on one’s knees and looking under the front of the car, far below the left bumper, at the very back/bottom of the front valance where it drops down a bit at the center of valance. Small area, maybe a size of 2-3 inches in diameter, which shows evidence of the panel having been hammered down with a ball peen type hammer to provide a relief for the lower left corner of the radiator right above it. In the meanwhile, I’ve cropped Marcel’s photo to focus on expected the location of the said “Bump/Blister”. When present, it should be visible in the area in the middle of this picture, at the back/bottom of the (front) valance, between right where the sheet metal drops down a little and the small white reflection of light seen on the black painted section in this photo. In some cases when it has been (unknowingly ?) deleted/removed, e.g. straightened and smoothed out, one can often still find evidence of the original hammer marks on the top side of that panel, right below the radiator lower left corner. I’ve seen cases in which the radiator lower tank corner was actually rubbing or touching against the valance panel sheet metal or cases in which various efforts have been employed to alleviate/prevent it from rubbing/touching after results of the “accidental”(?) elimination of the “Bump/Blister” were discovered later on, during re-assembly Image Unavailable, Please Login
No, the “Bump/Blister”, if you will, is or should be located on the very left side of that entire lowered section of the valance, at the very bottom, below the inner end of the left bumper and where the sheet metal ends and front structures of the chassis become exposed/visible. I’ll try to find a picture from my files a.s.a.p.
You really need to use some (red or any colour) arrows, that you maligned my use of on my posts that prove Mr Glickenhaus's P4 is a replica, to point out exactly what you're talking about, as nobody at the moment has a clue.
I actually found couple of shots from my files easier than expected. Hopefully they make sense. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Maybe you really need to go back to your favorite temper tantrum thread and leave serious discussions of cars to those who actually have hands-on experience along with their own photos of them, etc.
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we have already talked about this daytona....it is a conversion that runs in Argentina....seen here in miami in 2018.......thank you Marcel for your answer !
? ummm, ok. seen here in Miami in 2022. like yesterday. https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/148383439/ .
Image Unavailable, Please Login Ho yes you are right..I was deceived by the red carpet.Here is the same car in 2019 in Miami.And not 2018 as I said above.
Just ran across these again, Alfred Browning Parker home designed for John "Buck" Fulp, who raced under the N.A.R.T. banner. Still living in Anderson, SC. We. have all three types of wheels, but left these on from our trip to the FCA Daytona meet I think in 2017? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Any updated pics of that one off alloy 'barn find' from a few years ago? Always wondered how that restoration turned out.
No, that picture was taken after the fire. We had just landed from the Italian Car Guy Tour when a phone call alerted us that the heat censors were gong off. Damage is mitigated. We were rebuilding when I asked if the updated Hvac system could sustain a commercial operation, and the answer was no, so we stopped. For long term vitality of the home, it probably should be residential /commercial as it is on 70 acres on I85. We want the house preserved so it will be there for the next 60 years (1964) and this is one way to ensure this will happen, develop it as residential/commercial. We have had offers but have not marketed it, something we should do. Buck kept some interesting cars there and at his nearby boyhood home, we still hear stories of his exploits, like racing his 250TR through he town being chased by the local polices etc. He owned an impressive list of cars back in the day. http://hdurivage.com/ten-things-to-love-about-architect-alfred-browning-parker/ https://www.amazon.com/Architecture-Alfred-Browning-Parker-Modernist/dp/0813036771
it was at the Bacchelli E Villa stand at Retromobile in 2018, I assumed they would take care of the restoration, but no mention of the car on their website!
Thank you for the details Timo. In the end what is their significance? (Yes, a serious question as I am clueless.)
David, the pictures show a small detail feature in coachwork of Daytonas I believe was created in all or most of them during their original construction to alleviate clearance issue/problem between the left side of the front lower valance panel and the bottom of the radiator. I have personally seen & photo documented several unrestored or undamaged examples having this "bump" and several which have had signs or traces of it having been (inadvertently) eliminated one time or another during the given cars life. I've also received some documentation from colleagues working on or owners of several cars. I believe the reason for its original creation being an accidental(?) misalignment of the entire front coach work when the cars were built backing the day, but since I wasn't there at the time nor had an access to these cars when new, all this is somewhat speculative from my part, hence my continued and ongoing research, which may never provide enough proof for this theory. There are number of similar, but subtle coach work "oddities" I've discovered and researched on Daytonas for years, many of which require close, in-person viewing and comparison between numerous examples, not to mention understanding what one is looking at before they become obvious. Many are difficult, if not nearly impossible to explain in text or show in photos. Of course, more time passes with cars getting restored again and again without these features documented during the process, less chances there are in the future to see, let alone prove, authenticities of their restorations.
… or to put it simply, this “Blister/Bump” is one of many easy to spot coach work features I expect to see on a Daytona, especially on any subjected to complete or major (coach work) restoration. To me, it’s presence or lack of is another good indicator how much attention was paid to authenticity during restoration. Many of the other, what I consider commonly/often missing or mis-represented (coach work) features are usually easier to spot, even from most photos or just casually viewing the subject at a show.
