Gated f430 worth making a move to given premium

As far as I know the F1 vs manual is the same flywheel in the 430 can anyone confirm this?

 

Other than suspension, I’ve kept my 993 totally stock. I just can’t mentally get around denting my center tunnel to make room for the goldenrod due to the awd clearance!

you are right having to be more deliberate with the fcar gate. When I first got the car, missed a bunch of 2-3 shifts due to hitting the gate tooth. Got used to it after a few weeks of weekend only driving, feels intuitive now.

 

I do not know about which to prefer, but I just spent $5K to fix problems with the F1 parts. It made me think, if my car was a gated one, would I be paying this bill?

 

I've driven (but not owned) both and for me the (factory) manual is much more enjoyable. In fact I darn near ponied up and paid crazy money for one but decided to stretch and bit more when my 458 Spider inserted herself in my brain and heart

I had an F1 360 and hated the F1 so bad I down-traded it for a Porsche 911 C4s manual- Pretty much dismissed F1 when shopping for 430s but figured I would be open minded and the price difference was/is significant- 430 F1 was light years better than my 360 F1 but still preferred the manual.

IMHO if you can get a 430 manual that has solid history (I would not be concerned about the miles- you drive your cars so the garage queens are out anyway) and not have to pay crazy money I would do it.

Worst case if you don't like it you can sell it for crazy money and either get another 430 F1 with $$ back in your pocket or stretch to a 458 if that's a desire.

Just my .02

Cheers

 

430 f1 is way better than 360 F1, obviously

 

WHY IS THIS CAR NOT IN YOUR GARAGE ALREADY???????????????
Barring a salvage title, this is half market price on that car.....WOW...

 

It's funny as I have been digging into the cars history and it is actually a salvage title car from 2010 that has had the title washed. Present owner had no idea. It still may be worth it however given there are less than 300 or so and it is mechanically in very good shape.

 

Jeez... 419k for a factory gated ? Where will this craziness stop.... I will convert mine and put it up for sale for 250k.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=624313411&allListingType=all-cars&vehicleStyleCodes=COUPE&makeCodeList=FER&modelCodeList=F430&city=Newton&state=MA&zip=02458&location=&searchRadius=0&marketExtension=include&isNewSearch=false&showAccelerateBanner=false&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&numRecords=25&firstRecord=25&dma=&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fall-cars%2Fcoupe%2Fferrari%2Ff430%2Fnewton-ma-02458%3Fdma%3D%26searchRadius%3D0%26location%3D%26marketExtension%3Dinclude%26isNewSearch%3Dfalse%26showAccelerateBanner%3Dfalse%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26numRecords%3D25%26firstRecord%3D25&clickType=listing

 

3k miles, CCB, etc...the right colors, etc..high ask, but not ridiculous in this market IMO....

 

Thats crazy - so is a salvage worth half or how would it work on such a limited car?

 

You would need to know why it was salved and how it was repaired. Always worth less than no issue title since there are buyers that will simply not consider a salvage title car.

I bought a salvage Porsche where the previous owner overfilled the gas tank and flooded the heated EVAP canister. Of course that burned up that canister and damaged surrounding paint. It was an easy fix and drove great. Resale was not a big issue since I had all the pictures and receipts but went for less than equal cars.

IMO the salvage title seems priced in already. Are you sure the owner was not aware?

 

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. It's a friend of a friend type of thing, but he bought the car in 2011, so who knows. Obviously what he bought it for was much less than what he is selling. Regardless it is a nice car and plan to keep it. It's nice to know there is an escape hatch to sell and break even if things change.

 

I went from 360F1 to 430 manual. There was no consideration for F1 again and I loved my 360 with the CS TCU. My 430 manual around town is a chore and it shifts perfectly, but much nicer on the open road. The flywheel is very light. The revs drop fast during shifts. I find you need to shift fast to minimise this or feather the throttle a little during up shifts and of course rev match on downshifts. It's a beautiful thing. After 4 years my heart still races whenever I get in. Taking off in first is super easy. (I never launch) The clutch can be fully out in half a car length with virtually no revs required. A tech told me, driven nicely the twin plate clutch will last forever. Ist to 2nd cold crunch, I have found, can be eliminated by leaving my drive way and staying in first for at least 100 yards sitting at about 3000rpm (oiling everything nicely) and then shifting to 2nd fast, no crunch. Shift to 2nd right after take off, crunch. I think the F1 doesn't crunch because it shifts fast.

 

Hello,

Besides the financial aspect, I'll talk about the driving experience.

I can only encourage you for the 6-speed manual F430 which is an astonishing car. That naturally aspirated V8 coupled to the gated transmission is a pure joy to drive. As other said previously the flywheel is so light you have to get used to it at first, but once well mastered, the car rewards you with an extraordinary driving pleasure.

The pedals are in the perfect position for heel-toe, too.

Very reliable also, and from my personal experience, the clutch, even though it is the same than the F1, lasts much longer.

Still the F1 gearbox in the F430 is a great gearbox and provides a raw mechanical feeling (as opposed to the DCT) but gated manual gearbox is a different pleasure and in an F430, a real Event.

 

You already know how a 430 drives. If you are a manual stick shift person, you will love the 430 even more. I’ve had a 360, stick, and a 430 stick, and I will have to say I liked my 360 better. However, make the trade!

 

If I were you, I’d keep my F1 and if I wanted a gated, I’d have it converted rather than buy a salvage title car with unknown issues. So many things can be wrong and need attention. Just look at the Hill Engineering catalogue and you’ll see things like upgraded stainless ball joints and tie rod ends because the OEM are plated and corrode when the plating falls off.


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You don't need to dent it for a goldenrod or rs shift rod. Only needs to be dented/clearanced if you do a short shifter.

 

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