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575 HGTC ECU/TCU identification

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  1. MRY

    MRY Formula Junior

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    Hey knowledgeable ones,

    Is there a way to identify if a 575 had an upgraded HGTC package like the ECU/TCU other than going to the dealership and requesting the history of the car?

    For example with an SD3 or some OBD scan etc.

    Or by looking at the serial number of the ECU?

    I believe that sway bars can be physically measured etc.

    However I am not sure about the ECU.

    Anyone know if the HGTC ECU is still available from Maranello or the dealerships or parts houses etc?

    Thanks


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  2. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Sure, look at the part numbers and check against Eurospares' part catalogs. Note you have to upgrade both the HGTC Motronic ECUs and the TCU to make them work. They rely on each other and neither will work well without the other.
     
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  3. MRY

    MRY Formula Junior

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    Thanks Terry


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  4. Auraraptor

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    Honestly the easiest way to check if a car had the HGTC package is see if it has the OEM carbon brakes....

    There are many other ways too:

    Cross check VIN in one of the several databases or Nathan's book
    Check/See the diameter of the rear sway bar
    See if the car had the OEM aero undertray for the larger ducts

    The list goes on
     
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  5. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    The Motronic ECUs and TCU were not always upgraded with the HGTC retrofit kits and there were multiple versions of the kits with varying amounts of equipment. Neither was the shock ECU always upgraded since early 575Ms were not compatible with the HGTC shock ECU. There are multiple 575Ms out there with varying amounts of HGTC equipment.
     
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  6. Auraraptor

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    I should have clarified, I meant from the factory/not retrofitted.

    Yes you are right there are many partial HGTC cars out there. I myself would happily buy some parts/partial kit if I could find one! Too bad they are hens teeth now a days.
     
  7. MRY

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    I’m curious about cars that were upgrade, not factory optioned cars.

    Because I see some cars that have FHP and HGTC exhaust and possibly the ecu/TCU but no carbon brakes, and some have the suspension and ecu/TCU but no exhaust and brakes etc.

    Brakes are easy to see, while the others are not. Especially the ecu/TCU.

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  8. tazandjan

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    Yup, mine (135171) has FHP, Superamerica HGTC mufflers, Fabio headers and cats, Supersprint over axle pipes, and Mov'It CER ceramic brakes. A mutt.
     
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  9. Auraraptor

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    Just curious why you went with supersprints over Fabio’s H/Center pipe?
     
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  11. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    A- Fabio does not replace the over the axle pipe, which is pretty badly kinked. His H pipe is a replacement for the center pipes.
     
  12. Auraraptor

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  13. dsd

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    My 575 has all the HGTC bits except carbon brakes and the steering harness stuff.

    I’d think you would have to check for parts/ECU numbers and window sticker to see what’s up.
     
  14. tazandjan

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    d- You have the HGTC Motronic ECUs and shock ECU on her?
     
  15. dsd

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    I have the shock ecu. The skunkworks steering ecu. The sway bar, shocks, springs, brembo big brake kit (335 or 355). Remind me what else there was (I’m pretty sure I changed everything but it’s been ages since I completed).
     
  16. tazandjan

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    How did you get rid of the suspension lamp?
     
  17. tazandjan

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    A- Wrong connecting pipe. That is the one from the cat back to the center pipes. Fabio's headers and cats includes that one.
     
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  18. dsd

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    Upgraded my Shock ECU from 183960 to 205619.
     
  19. Auraraptor

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    Hmm do you happen to have the part number for the one you used?
    That one looked right from the group photo
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  20. tazandjan

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    A- Maybe you are right. I never saw them. They were shipped directly to my techs.
     
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