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2022 Bahrain GP: Post Race Analysis

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  1. pilotoCS

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    It's about time they showed some bad strategy rather than a certain Italian team.
     
  2. pilotoCS

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    Or, in the case of McLaren , Mercedes engine. Then for Aston it's the Mercedes engine. Williams seem to be suffering from the same malady, a certain Mercedes engine.
     
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  3. william

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    You mean lack of power? Because they all finished the race.
     
  4. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    The next GP is in a week's time, so not much time to remedy some of the faults some teams have uncovered on their cars.

    The Ferrari teams will be at an advantage in that respect. Could the centre of gravity in F1 shift this year?
     
  5. pilotoCS

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    Right. "Just give us an engine that finishes the race. That's all!"
     
  6. USMCS6

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    We run 100% methanol, no trick. Just need to have the right seals. I have to believe that anyone in F1 world is way smarter than us. Also an engine doesn't "lock up" because of loss of fuel, it spools down. I think maybe RB turned it up past 10 and used the engine up. Just my .02$. No matter what Ferrari brought a proper car to the race and RB dropping out didn't give it to them. I'm a racer and I would have loved to see RB in it to the finish. I still think it would have been F-RB-F at the end. FORZA FERRARI!!
     
  7. 20000rpm

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    This!!! It's a quote from the race thread. I recall Brundle saying Rb having some 18kmph advantage with DRS. But I believe it to be more than that. Max caught Charles every time on the drs straight from a long distance. They are fast on the straights which will be an issue for us if the straights are long enough like in Monza or Spa.
     
  8. WPOZZZ

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    I think Michelin has a guy on the Merc team.

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  9. JJ

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    As cruel as it is hilarious! Playing pandemic hasn't been kind to all of us. :D
     
  10. johnireland

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    I'm totally happy with today's race. I love the race results. I loved the real racing between cars just inches from each other. Ferrari RB and Mercedes all know what they have to do next week and for the rest of the season...and I hope Ferrari does it the best. I will also be cheering for Alfa Romeo and Haas to keep filling those top ten spots...and that one of them becomes 4th in the WCC. Congratulations to everyone at Ferrari.
     
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  11. ionutand

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    Red bull uses the small wing of all teams in the race because that they have the higher top speed ,basically they reduce the performance in the corners not to be humiliated by ferrari in the straights.The most important thing in the straights is how fast you accelerate from lower speed to higher speed(look at ferrari 100-250km acceleration) not the higher top speed.Also red bull using a small wing make the tyre degration worse.
     
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  12. WPOZZZ

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    I think Max's driving style makes things worse. I don't think Checo had the same deg as Max.
     
  13. sp1der

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    And 9 seconds behind after the 7 lap sprint
     
  14. Bas

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    What I meant with "eat through it" was any rubbers...not the fuel itself.

    It still could be that they simply used too much fuel and ran out but with Mclaren having replaced both pumps as well (a standardized issue since this year), I'm not jumping to conclusions yet.
     
  15. SS454

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    Oh, sorry I misunderstood. I would find it incredibly unlikely to find the E10 fuel ate through any lines or any gaskets. Any soft fuel lines is surely PTFE. They didn't have any issues during the near 4000 km of testing. E10 is not even that corrosive, we aren't talking about pure methanol here. Plus any leaks with gasoline would almost surely result in a fire under the extremely hot surfaces on an F1 car. Having said that, unlikely doesn't mean impossible, so who knows.

    I guess it doesn't matter to us what the reason is, they DNF'd regardless. Whether its part failure or human error, they will have it fixed by next week I'd expect.
     
  16. Bas

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    I was reading a little about it late last night. Apparently the reason why few teams did any REAL long run testing pre-season was because of the fuel pump issues. I'd like to see more documentation on the matter. The fact that the failure was similar is encouraging as a Max fan as presumably that'll mean it'll be fixed soon.

    Perhaps the fix really is as simple as putting more fuel in because the cars where underfueled, lol. But with a parts supplier thrown under the bus you half expect a reply back by now saying there's **** all wrong with the pumps...
     
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  18. Bas

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    Very interesting! I wonder what'll be made of this...
     
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  19. Nortonious

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    Do we know what teams did take advantage of this?
     
  20. Nurburgringer

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    #45 Nurburgringer, Mar 21, 2022
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    If the screen graphics are accurate at 2:09 in this video on lap 17 LeC topped out at 281 on the main straight while Max hit 325kph.
    44kph difference can't be only DRS and slipstreaming, can it? While not the fastest in a straight line, I thought the Ferrari was easily topping 300kph in practice and qualifying.
    Was LeC sandbagging it (not nearly as blatently/dangerously as Max in Abu Dhabi last year), just to get DRS for the 2nd zone?
    If so it seems odd to have done this only on lap 17 (and possibly 18, maybe 19 when Max locked up).
    Wonder if he was getting instructions (code) on the radio telling him that these were Max's best chances to take the lead, so give him turn one then take it back.

     
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  21. Nurburgringer

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    On lap 19, at 3:18 in the video, Max is at least 10 car lengths behind LeC at the starting gantry. He then hits 327kph and brakes just a bit too late, locking up.
    No speed shown for LeC but again seems like he purposefully limited his top speed to give Max a window in which to chuck it up the inside.
    If that was indeed LeC's/Ferrari's strategy on lap 17, 18 and 19, it worked brillitantly!

     
  22. jpalmito

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    Automotorundsport stated today that Mercedes deficit in lap time is 0.5 sec/lap in quali and 0.8sec/lap in race pace due to excessive tyre wear.
    They think they will fix the problem for the Imola Gp.
    Lewis believe the problem is more deeper than that..
    Less optimistic in private.
     
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  23. 355TDI

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    I have been saying this for years, the fact that race drivers are being commended for their ability to conserve tyres is ridiculous. The best drivers in the world should be a full throttle every lap, this is F1 not Uber.
     
  24. jgonzalesm6

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    I read some teams took advantage of this BUT I forgot which ones.
     
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  25. Nortonious

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    Hmmm. Ham always overstates his adversity. If he wins he is even more the hero, if he loses he has his excuses already built in.
     
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