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  1. AceMaster

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    I haven't paid attention when in idle, but half-way or slightly lower....at 3,000 it should be slightly past half-way mark
     
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  2. AceMaster

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    I think you should contact Rifledriver privately/directly and get advice on how to pursue this. As he noted in this very thread (and I've seen some of his other threads with the same info), he has experience with Ferrari covering the bill on certain matters.

    Rifedriver, sorry if I am speaking out of turn by suggesting he contact you directly, but the worst that can happen is you will say no :) - nothing ventured, nothing gained.
     
  3. Ferrarium

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    My guess it it's too late at this point. Evidence is gone. Yes it threw a shim. That was an effect not the cause. No way classic coach did not notice the oil starvation. Just no way. Why they did not tell you is the question. I mean you know you did not over rev on top of that. In theory pictures early on may have helped the cause, I would have gone over there and argued for you, the evidence is in the pictures. But after the fact the water has long flowed under the proverbial bridge.

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  4. Rifledriver

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    Evidence gone? Where did it go? If the head is on and the oil filter on its still there. But not if some Gomer keeps ripping and tearing.
     
  5. Ferrarium

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    He got a used engine, bottom.end I read. I suspect parts were then canablized to put the new short block back together to full. So his engine is a mix of 2, what's left in terms of evidence is anyone's guess is all. What was used from what for what's is anyone's guess I would venture to guess. OP can clarify this aspect but post definitely says he sourced a used engine, I thought it was a short block.

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  6. Rifledriver

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    So then you are guessing?

    Why buy a shortblock? A shortblock has no heads. A left head is all he really needs. And not even really that. I have seen far worse heads repaired.
     
  7. Ferrarium

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    #307 Ferrarium, Apr 20, 2022
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    Ohh I agree with you. But no I'm not guessing it's in the post up top.

    Because he was told piston strike with the valve could have bent the crank so he bought a new used motor our of caution. Classic coach sourced one for him.

    The shop recommended and he went along which is what most who are not mechanically inclined would do, no fault there.

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  8. bjwhite

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    By the way, just so you know. This is why everyone here wanted pics when you first started this adventure, not months later after you shelled out big bucks for the rebuild/replacement. Because the failure description seemed suspicious, pics would have been the only thing to tell the tale. And months later, they certainly did.
     
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  9. axarunner

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    To litigate this early on would have required proof of fault by the shop that did the oil and filter change. They had photographic evidence that they did that properly (I was shown this before driving the car out of the shop). Litigation requires the costly hiring of an attorney and experts, plus the loss of the use vehicle, to what end? On the potential of a positive outcome of an expensive trial? Only the attorneys and experts win and I’m still left with a car that needs to be repaired.


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  10. 26street

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    Let’s hope all is good after the repairs and that he enjoys the cars for many years

    This was a bad situation from the start and all involved knew it was going to be very expensive repair but in the end it’s the owner who pays the price

    Yes he can fight to try to get someone else (who should be accountable for the problem) to pay for it but any business will just give you a break on labor and make you wait a long time for the car




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  11. bcar1

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    I don’t know the bill of the replacement engine but get the point- it’s a shame classic coach is giving the bad diagnosis given their reputation. What shop did the original oil change? The best recourse here may be knowing where to avoid in NJ.
     
  12. Ferrarium

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    Yeah I think the point is nobody's saying the failure was because of the oil change. Sue the bastards. I'm not.

    It could have been just something else that perhaps Ferrari may have covered. One thing for sure the failure was not an over rev and the thrown shim. That was in effect. The cause is related to oil starvation. Now what caused that is the question.

    Really crappy diagnosis by CC, and as I said, no way they did not know this. I mean that whole area is baked dry from heat. However bad it is in the one or two pictures you know it was 10 times worse in person. Probably smelled burned too. Super obvious.


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  13. Ferrarium

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  14. bjwhite

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    You completely missed my point. :)
    But yes you got the car back. Enjoy.
     
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  15. GTO Joe

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    Does anyone have a copy of the TSB mentioned above for the cam plugs. I have a major coming up and would like to make sure it has been completed. I searched but couldn't find anything. TIA :)
     
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