Has anyone been able to install and test out the control sensors for a Citroen or a Peugeot that may work on a 360?
Yelcab your answer is not to the point. I travel a lot and charge the car while away. I can get a battery charger kit from Ricambi for @$500 USD or get one that does the same job at Walmart for @$30.00. The 360 Capote top was originally made by Porsche. The point of the question was to see if we could use something not necessarily a Ferrari part to repair the F1 sensors.
If you are a DIY person, have at it. Your labor is free to you and you can spend your time endlessly testing and making sure the non original sensor works. Great. If you are fixing the car for someone else, and you need to have the quality of your work top-notch, or you do it again for free (at a operational loss), then you buy the original sensor especially when it is still available. Do you want me to list how many times I have been burnt with non-Original parts? The latest was this morning.
I understand your feelings on the subject and basically agreed with your premise. However I am still interested if someone on site is able to answer my original question.
I did this sensor on a 360CS, it was $1400 each. I paid. Then bought another one for spare before they are NLA. I also paid through the nose on a Ediff pressure sensor on a 430 F1. It was ... $500? No complaint. Nobody ever promised that owning a Ferrari was going to be cheap. (wanna know who said that?)
Have you considered these https://www.sequparts.com/product/selection-sensor-potentiometer-ferrari-f1/ Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk
What I find really strange..I have never had to replace a secletion potentiometer on a 360. Yet I do them frequently on the 430. Obviously the 430 sensors are much different..but the failure rate is 100% more frequent..Strange.
It does seem from just watching here that the ones on the 430 are problematic. I know mine failed not too long ago left me stranded in the middle of I-5. To be honest, given the inconvenience and risk of being stranded, replacing them proactively might not be a bad idea if you have the actuator off to access the bleed screws. I know they are $$$, but so is getting towed.
let me share something I had 2 failed f430 potentiometers. Each potentiometer is made up of 2 units. luckily, as I tested on the car with a scan tool, each of the potentiometers has one good unit ( the other unit being a failed unit, of course) So I seperate the good unit from each of the potentiometers , and put the 2 good units together to form 1 good potentiometer. Moral of the story: DO NOT THROW AWAY YOUR BAD F430 POTENTIOMETER. IT MAYBE ONLY 1/2 BAD. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Umm..when you purchase the pots..they come as a pair. You cannot purchase them by the single unit. This is not a cost savings at all. This more then likely will cost you more in a short period of time.
my bad. let me rephrase what I mean. Each potentiometer has 2 pods, pod A and pod B. In 2016, I was driving my car and suddenly, the potentiometer failed ( pod A failed and pod B is good, as indicated on scan tool), so I replaced it with a brand new potentiometer. In 2020, the "new" potentiometer failed (pod B failed and Pod A is good, as indicated on scan tool), so I removed the "new" potentiometer. So I put the pod B of the 2016-failed potentiometer and pod A of the 2020-failed potentiometer together and formed a functional good potentiometer, saving the money to buy a brand new potentiometer.
Gentlemen, now the rest of the story as Paul Harvey used to say. Flash32 sent a source for the two potentiometers that failed in my 360 spider. When removed they indicated that the parts were Citroen/ Peugeot, not Ferrari. We ordered two at @USD180.00 instead of USD$1400 each from Ferrari. They worked perfectly. The address is below, Thank you again Flash32. https://www.sequparts.com/product/selection-sensor-potentiometer-ferrari-f1/ After testing the car would not engage all gears as the P1773 error indicated Clutch life was 98.57% used. After clutch replacement, release bearing and associated gaskets/hardware and assorted odds and ends were replaced the car works perfectly.
Not sure, I am away and the Independent Ferrari service in Bluffton, SC may have the actual Citroen part number.
good day all I have a 02 575M the potentiometer is bad, only have r,1,2 gears and checked with a Ferrari scan tool. clutch has 75% left. Ordered part from Scuderia a month ago. called twice ,they finally got in touch with me to till me part not available "SORRY" I understand BMW also has the same part. does anyone know the part number or what year and model? Much thanks
https://www.sequparts.com/product/selection-sensor-potentiometer-ferrari-f1/ Try the above link. It is where we got our two potentiometers. A little over $100.00 each.
It looks like the 575M potentiometers are different from the 360 so the ones from sequparts won't work, I'm not sure if there is a generic part for the 575M ones, the OEM part number is 248095 and they come as a pair, it's the same part number as the F430s. Ricambi shows them in stock at the moment, it looks like eurospares will have them in stock shortly too.
You cannot buy part number 248095 any more. The Ferrari factory ran out a while back and I bought the last six sensor pairs from the Maserati factory when I found out. When I asked if the factory were intending to re-order another batch I was told no. I fulyl expected this part to go NLA. I'm mindful that I will need to work out how to solve this supply issue - Lamborghini may have an equivalent part (as may Audi). However given the astonishing failure rate I suspect it'll need a third party manufacturer to step up. In the meantime many cars are going to be off the road...
