Question about verifying mileage on a used car.

There are several different ways the vehicle registers miles traveled.
ECU, TCU, Body Control Modules, etc.
Plus, each time the car is connects to MODIS, a scan in is performed, which, again downloads data that could throw up a flag if something went backwards, or didnt jive with algorithms.

CAN it be done, I am sure it can, there are companies all over the world that work to bypass electronics, but an equal amount of tech out there to counter the counter data blockers... LOL

If concerned have a Ferrari Dealership ( or other associated manufacturer ) perform a full vehicle scan, then compare data.

Wouldn't be difficult to see, IMO

Steve

 

I am so informed that on a 458 the transmission also records mileage, which can’t be electronically dialed back. I have suspected for some time that mine had been rolled back prior to purchase 4 years ago with only 2,000 miles.

It’s become kind of a moot point anyway as the car is currently at 35,000 miles and has been tracked numerous times. I went the enjoyment factor route as opposed to the garage queen route. Not one regret…….,

 

Most car ads from professional sellers use the phrase “displayed mileage”
Lawyers
Unless you have other reasons to suspect mileage tampering, that wording alone should cause no concern
If you have legitimate reason to be concerned about the mileage, move on to another car

 

it's really hard. yes there are devices that 'splice' into the ecu so it doesn't record any mileage but then also does not register any codes. there may be ways to see if it's been dialed back - however can you tell if it just stopped recording for a few months out of the year or not? IDK. thats why some level of service records that give you an idea of some logical sense of usage is good.

 

I was told that dealers are finding European made devices that alter mileage when they do the brake recall. Scary and disgusting.

 

That post is complete Internet rumor mongering

Told by who?
What dealers?

Put up or shut up

 

Why the hostility? If you do a quick Google search you can find what he is talking about. Very illegal but they are out there. Here is the first thing that pops up on google. https://superkilometerfilter.com/product/ferrari-f8-odometer-stopper/

 

I guess that settles it then
An internet link must mean it’s true

 

That product also says for models released since 2019. Does not add up for 458 brake recall.

 

Does not add up at all
Typical internet discourse
Utterly meaningless

 

https://superkilometerfilter.com/product/ferrari-458-odometer-blocker/

 

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing//topic.asp?h=0&t=1970867

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/mileage-correction-ferraris-watch-out.499594/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4257298/Ferrari-uses-device-roll-mileage-salesman-accuses.html

https://jalopnik.com/ferrari-admits-to-knowingly-allowing-dealers-to-change-1823368905

what else do you want? There has been lots of litigation over this. Sorry to burst Your precious bubble but yes it is true. Again, it is very illegal but the devices still exist.

 

but they don’t leave them installed when going in for service

those posts are 5-8 years old and primarily concern factory authorized rollbacks

Not 3rd party add-ons

 

Where is your proof of that? You call out someone for throwing around wild statements and yet you make this statement without any support? These devices do exist and there are multiple companies (overseas) that make and sell them. The fact that you maybe didn’t know about them doesn’t make it untrue. They are very illegal. 430jm made a statement that dealers have found the devices on peoples cars when they take them in for a recall. I would only assume that someone that bought the illegal device, installed it, had a recall and took their car in for service and forgot to remove it and they were busted. I would make a wild assumption that if a person is dumb enough to buy and install that device they may also be dumb enough to forget to uninstall it. I also know of at least one dealer that has found one.

 

I simply don’t believe his post

 

I’m an attorney. I don’t engage in that Joe.
My local dealership.

 

Actually, it was even worse. The guy didn’t know it was even installed on his car. He bought the car not knowing it had been installed. In other words, he got ripped off for invalid mileage.

 

Oh and I can’t remember what the effect was, but it screwed up something like blew up the electrical panel when they went to do the fix. And the guy that owned the car had to pay for that.

 

I saw For 458 models on there website…keep scrolling down.

 

I am an attorney as well
I do not believe your post

 

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I see it now, as well as the articles posted. Abhorrent product and behavior from Ferrari if the Jalopnik article is accurate. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

 

Me too. Very confused. Evidentially Todd does not believe 430jm’s statement that some dealers have found the devices on customers cars when they brought them in for a recall. I think it’s the ostrich argument.