Anyone for my 228? $25k. I'll throw in a 89 Zagato parts car.:)
Is it? Based on what? While not 100% original (I suspect it could be repainted from several photos) but in otherwise excellent condition, I think it represents the era extremely well! If one were to perform a rigorous study based on comparisons similar to stocks or real estate valuation using metrics of performance, quality, and quantity, I would conclude, that at a minimum, it is fairly valued for the first time this century... I am not saying these other cars are not "over their skis" either! I am just comparing using similar metrics. I'll never forget, that I drove a used 911 in the morning and a used 87 Biturbo si (in poor condition but ran well) in the afternoon of the same day (probably spring 1996) and decided that I would find a Maserati. In '97 I finally bought an '89 Spyder and have never regretted my decision. Porsche 944 sales Image Unavailable, Please Login Ferrari Mondial sales: Image Unavailable, Please Login Ferrari 328 sales: Image Unavailable, Please Login Porsche 911 sales: Image Unavailable, Please Login
Reality. Some late stupids have arrived on the scene. Plenty of those are great examples as well. Very bad times are just around the corner.
Fed Chair Powell: Executing a soft landing may be beyond our control. In other words, it's not a question of IF it will be a hard landing, the question is HOW hard of a landing will it be?
And with the 5% buyer's fee, it actually breaks the $50k mark. This came far sooner than I had expected. Glad to see the appreciation. Took a friend out last night and he thoroughly enjoyed it. They really are special cars.
....and here's another: https://www.ebay.com/itm/234541172372?hash=item369bbe4694%3Ag%3A11sAAOSwS7ViSx6M&LH_ItemCondition=3000%7C2500 1600 miles, so it is special, but still.....
That is another spectacular example! I think they will regret not listing it on Bat! Who knows, if it doesn't sell on eBay perhaps it will show up on Bat. I would be inclined to get some of the OEM wheels currently listed on eBay. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Here is another 1990 (automatic) red/grey/black spyder: 32,900 Miles, Twin-Turbo 2.8-Liter V6, Mostly Unmodified The attached Carfax report shows that this Spyder was issued an Illinois salvage title in July 1994, an Indiana salvage title in December 1994, and a Michigan salvage title in December 1996. It currently holds a clean Virginia title. Yesterday it was at $2k, today it is at $6k! Strange place to list one. Looks like some areas have been repainted. I think where you list is as important as what you list. https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3goeOx4y/1990-maserati-biturbo-spyder Image Unavailable, Please Login
Then I hope to sell my '90 at a price that can cover what it costed me (a lot): it has been replaced by a Porsche in my garage, so I need room. I will place a sale ad in the for sale section asap. Ciao Image Unavailable, Please Login
Go with the flow ... put it up on BAT if they'll allow it? That's where all the stupid money is spending right now.
sold at $14,500. ouch! Was it the: #1 listing site/location? #2 the automatic? #3 the market? #4 all the above? In my opinion, #4.
1984 Maserati Biturbo 5-Speed, bid to $19,000. A highly modified car with a 2.8l FI engine. A very interesting story about the modifications posted from Maserati Club magazine. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-maserati-biturbo-12/ Image Unavailable, Please Login
Here's another: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-maserati-biturbo-spyder/ Hammered at $30,500, so $32k and change with fee. Very nice, 9k miles, 2.8L spyder, automatic. There is definitely some appreciation out there. @Albert-LP Looking good, Alberto!
It did make it over to BaT. However, it goes to show that you have to do more than just list it! Lessons learned - at a minimum you need high-quality photos a video of it starting/running/driving you must engage the bidders and answer their questions (no matter how stupid they get) and address errors in comments Otherwise, you end up like this: Bid to $16,250 on 8/4/22 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-maserati-biturbo-si-coup/ The aero kit appears to be originally installed by the dealer, although I have not seen one like that, and the wheels did not help. I would have thought with some engagement that would have seen $30k - $40k based on previous auctions. Definitely, one of the nicest Biturbos I have seen.
A nice Biturbo from looking at the pics. That's a MIE aero kit sold back in the day; it's missing the rocker pieces though. I hate to say my 87 is much nicer with the full body kit, Carello driving lights, and very rare Simmons 3-piece wheels with Nito racing rubber installed. All that being said it's good to see the prices going north for very nice examples.
If you read the comments it's clear that the seller was the problem with this listing. It looks nice but ... given the age and lack of mileage you have to wonder terribly what sort of shape the head gaskets and all of the seals are in. That's an engine out service with a teardown of the camboxes and heads and probably a new water pump. Now ... try and find someone who can do all of that properly. I know how to do that and I think the price is probably about right considering the major service and reassembly that' going to be required. Bidders aren't as dumb as some people may think. He was probably trying catch a fool.
I don't mean to nit pick your comment, Bob, but that went from "wonder[ing] terribly what sort of shape the head gaskets and all of the seals are in" very quickly to requiring a major engine out service. Sure there is risk (there always is), but that could be addressed by a good PPI. I did not follow that auction closely, but I get the impression that that would have been difficult to arrange. The problem again was not the car, per se, but rather it was the disengaged seller.
It's a lot easier to replace the head gaskets with the engine out trying to do that with the engine in the car. You also ensure a much better job of assembly. Concern over the head gaskets is because it's been used so little and the seller gave almost no information about that. I bought my Bora in somewhat similar condition, actually @ 10 years old with 3K miles and I ended up doing the head gaskets after 6 months.
1989 Maserati Biturbo Spyder i https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1989-maserati-biturbo-spyder/ Image Unavailable, Please Login
Those wheels are going to be the buy of a lifetime! I have looked at the photos as much as possible and I think if someone spent time detailing this car and put a decent set of wheels on it, it could be one of the nicest biturbos in the country! It was only bid to $13k on cars and bids or whatever. From the pictures, it looks like its as nice as the ones that sold $30k and more last year. FWIW - it is 14 digits 1867 vs 1853 and 2 months 11/88 vs 9/88 newer than mine!
A low mileage Biturbo could also mean the car has sat a long time with "issues" One of the comments was: "I’ve seen this on a flat-bed around town more than under it’s own power." Ivan
We all know..or at least those lucky enough to have owned 2.8L injected 89 Spyder, that is well sorted, how much fun and great driving cars these Maserati can be! They will surprise you…
