812 Replacement Rumors

Apologies if I offended any Belgians (even if 1/4 Belgian) as this was not my intent.

 

No worries mate, I just felt that I should clarify that the EU is not run by the Belgians. The Belgians are just the hoteliers of the European overlords, if you may. I am glad the UK is out.

 

Ferrari's new Power 15 warranty will extend mechanical and electronic components to 15 years - So no luck needed just buy the coverage
https://www.ferrari.com/en-US/corporate/articles/ferrari-extends-its-class-leading-aftersales-services?amp=true

 

I do not agree, the 'power15' is very generically defined on that link in what is covers, probably need a dealer to give you the full breakdown of what is covered, etc.

"Electronic components" is too generic, needs clarification. And, quite telling is "LaFerrari Power" section, it does directly mention the battery/hy-kers...so, I presume power15 does not cover similar items in the hybrids due to the lack of similar mention...

And, costs, if it is $10K/year then there is potentially no difference between paying for new battery/inverter/etc if/when it needs it versus paying ahead for power15 coverage...

I could not find specific language of power15 exact coverage items, if you have, please post...

 

They just announced it, I'm sure more info is forthcoming - If its 10k a year they will sell ZERO policies

 

LF battery replacement: $200k. No thanks.

 

More fun. From 2024 the ISA system will become mandatory for all EU cars. It’s a systems that’s hits the break when you cross the speed limit!

 

Speed control
Unable to lease ICE cars
Unable to buy EVs only lease them(you will own nothing and be happy- see music and video streaming, living in government controlled housing etc)
The list goes on.
The degree of control of the population is reaching a high not seen since the Middle Ages when serfdom was considered the norm and only royalty are meat.
But drive your Ferrari V12 vehicle in protest! The long front hood poking a middle finger in the eye of the body politic!


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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-10968909/New-EU-vehicles-fitted-speed-limiting-tech-6-July-Britain-follow-suit.html

 

Disagree since lots of folks (like me) buy the V12 policy and it hit nearly $7k this year. The 2-year extension of the 3-year full warranty was something like $23k I think. If a warranty doesn't cover that giant disposable battery in a hybrid or full EV then there is no point. I'll bet it will but they will apply enough prorating to the terms that it will make it hard to decide. For sure will be a hot potato situation for whoever gets stuck with the cost of replacement like turbos. If you have turbos and the battery with no warranty then hold onto your butts!

 

I am sorry, but that's incorrect. The "speed limiter" does not actually limit speed. First there is a visual warning, then an audible one, then the accelerator pedal will get stiffer. The driver can still push through the resistance though and the car will accelerate as desired. The system is also fully defeatable, with a button, or via the menu.

 

This system will cause more traffic wrecks than it prevents.

 

I'm sure it is.... at first.
Since all data will be shared how long before speed tickets will drop into my mail box or warnings from the insurance companys!?

 

In theory the data will be anonymous. The EU has serious privacy laws. At any rate, it will be easy for a workshop to turn the system off.

 

Mmm Hmm…. I always trust the ruling class to never over extend their control. The reality is that once it is adopted, it will be full utilized - all in the interest of public safety.


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According to the article you can push through it for a short period of time, presumably to pass, then it resets to alerts, etc.

 

That's why we 'll just turn it off, like we do with the stop-start.

 

So you’ll get your car and every time push a button to defeat the environmentalists accomplishing nothing, and then push another button to defeat the safety nannies which also accomplishes nothing. And you don’t feel some type of dystopian anger?

 

Is it that hard for someone to push a button or two to defeat a couple of systems?

 

Philosophically speaking—YES.

They’re not a “couple buttons.” Can’t you see that?

It’s a dystopian metaphor. Are you that “concrete?”

 

Yes
And eventually non defeat able.


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And you thought the prices on the back catalogue were too high now, I'm afraid you ain't seen nothing yet!

Once the realities sink in....and then there will be the reckoning several years later when no new cars/trucks are available for 50%+ of the population....

 

Remember, Ferrari simply develops to the lowest-common-denominator when it comes to emission and regulation tech...

So, remember this date too for any existing production:

However, new models already in showrooms today won't need to have the technology retrofitted into them until 7 July 2024, the regulation stipulates.

 

I doubt the powers that be will allow the global economy to crash when car sales drop 50%.
But fun it won’t be

 

I thought this was a joke but based on the subsequent posts its pretty pathetic. Speed signs are a suggestion in modern society and only come into play for ticketing purposes. COVID rules proved this. Seems the greens/regulators saw that traffic took a normal and safe flow at speeds deemed safe by the operators and their equipment. I saw for two years the right lane be reasonable and used for anticipating turns, the center lane for fast transit, and the left lane for autobahn. There were a couple of morons but very rare.

Read a NHTSA report that confirmed this referring it to an increase in "speed dispersion" which is the speed difference between lanes. The report showed that traffic crashes actually declined. Traffic fatalities increased but seems that it was related to decreased use of seatbelts and increased use of drugs and alcohol - specifically dope. Lots of dope being sold, smoked, and showing up in crash victims systems. Put the pipe down Mario and stop being stupid.

I can't imagine the car messing up the pedal feel during accelerating. The car literally telling me how to drive. Pushing back on my commands. No thanks. I find it "Chicanerous and Deplorable". And soon to not be defeatable.

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