I know right, max has one with an * and one at end of season congratulations, while lewis has 7 to keep himself warm.
What rule did Ham break? You don't have to hit the apex. It's just the quickest way around a corner. Both drivers were unyielding, it was simply a racing incident. If Max didn't crash, it would have been a non issue. Penalties are supposed to be given out for the incident, not the result of the incident.
And the RESULT was the only issue RedBull had with the episode lol. LH won. LH was penalised per the rules ALL team’s agreed to ! Not good enough and Horner started his witch-hunt on social media!
Causing a collision. Max left plenty of room. Lewis chose to hit him. The driver in front is not required to (and really has no way to) react to the actions of someone behind him mid-corner. How exactly is he supposed to even see what line the guy behind him is taking? The driver behind has full vision and the responsibility to avoid a collision assuming the driver in front gives him room, which Max clearly did. Lewis proved he was in the wrong when he took the corner without hitting Charles, who gave less room than Max, simply by choosing to hit the apex instead of Charles.
Not sure about you, max or lewis, but for me when turning a corner at high speed, i want to look at the direction i will be turning not the other way, Max should have seen lewis as he was looking that way, why you want lewis to look over his shoulder ill never know. Only on ferrari chat do people tell you to look left while turning right at 280 km/h.... Brilliant piece of wisdom
The opinions keep being divided about that Silverstone incident. No chance of concensus on that issue. Better let bygones be bygones and look ahead instead of always looking back, IMO.
they was side by side into braking ( slight lift off, car full of fuel ), side by side at corner entry, max got slightly a head ( Not even a car length ) during the corner and turned into Lewis as per the stewards report, max caused the crash ( as stewards said ), But lewis could have done more to avoid it but didnt, as he had already backed out 3 times prior. as you can tell, through the whole corner, Lewis had rights to choose his racing line ( Hes on the inside, can choose what ever entry / exit he likes.........No rule says u need to hit apex ever either) as the car on the out side looking into corner, its max's job to avoid lewis as we know from before last year and in this season since. What happened during the "stop at all costs lewis getting his 8th title" even if it harms the sports integrity, in the season of the "let them race bull crap ", was just that. a one off.
More accurate to say that Hamilton had no plans to turn towards the apex, at all ... without bouncing off Verstappen, at least. Imagine what the Hamilton fans are now saying ... - Work your way up the inside of a turn, alongside another driver who remains in the lead. - Don't turn towards the apex, at all. - If the lead driver does turn toward the apex, with some plans of actually negotiating the turn, he will hit you ... and the fault will be his! No thanks ... I prefer the racing rules in this place we call reality: lead driver is fully entitled to turn towards the apex, leaving enough room on-track for an alongside driver. If there's any contact in this scenario, the fault is with the driver attempting to overtake.
If a car is already in that space, then you cant go into that space obviously. So to sum up the orange army here, its a car on inside needs to dissapear, whilst looking the wrong way round the fastest corners in f1 to make sure no crash crashtappen is going to turnin on you while hitting the apex ( Dont forget while not even looking as lewis has to look 180 degrees in the other direction.. OMFG you cant make this crap up on here.
And yet, Hamilton had to make a comparison after last week's race between Max and Charles even though, Charles gave him less room than Max. Love the come back Max had for him though! We wouldn't be having this discussion if Hamilton didn't take a cheap shot at Max first.
Clueless Do you even understand the first thing about racing? The car on the inside does not need to "disappear". How many times do you have to be told, lead driver MAY turn towards the apex, as long as he leaves ENOUGH ROOM near apex for an ALONGSIDE driver? "Leaving enough room for an alongside driver" does not expect any car to disappear Of course, this racing rule DOES require that the overtaking driver actually attempt to MAKE THE TURN! That's where Hamilton failed, miserably ... and that's why the collision was 100% his fault.
To sum it up, Hamilton is a sore loser. He just can't help himself taking cheap shots at his competitors. That's all.
If Lewis wasnt their then they wouldnt have touched would they ( At no point does max get a full car length ahead, so any action to cut into lewis path would only result in a collision, that is obvious )...... so you are wrong, if you have a car with in the rear wheels the lead car has to leave space, even if it means going off track....lewis was side by side and slightly fell back but was still on his inside, max hadnt cleared him, so is obviously entitled to take his desired line, as per the rules, not max's line ( As both lewis and max will be looking into the apex of the corner not the opposite way. for obvious reasons. ),he messed up let lewis inside and went out wide thus ensuring lewis had the right to push him wide off track ( Some thing every driver does ) , lewis can stay on the inside and force max wide as is with in the rules, you cant just close the door to a car already down the inside, your hitting them ( Which is what happened, the contact is made after Max adjusts his steering angle to cut across lewis expecting lewis to back out like he ALWAYS does ), that is also what the stewards said, max caused contact but lewis made no attempt to avoid it, that is what the stewards report said, so tenichally as has been said, its a racing incident of two drivers who didnt want to back out, but the initial contact was made because Max had tried to close the door on a car that wasnt going to back down, eg Lewis did a max on max.
I’ll just address this tiny point: “….. so you are wrong, if you have a car with in the rear wheels the lead car has to leave space, even if it means going off track.” There is a rule that you must leave a cars width on the track, so I don’t see how it is possible for the LEAD car to HAVE to leave the track…because…in reality the TRAIL car would be at fault for FORCING another car off track, which is CLEARLY a penalty. Like Albon was penalized today in the Austria Sprint for forcing a car off track.
Yeah ofc, ill quote Horney when max did it to lewis but lewis avoided contact.. Ready.... Michael, thats all about letting them race that is.. its all about letting them race.... https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/insiders-guide-rules-of-overtaking/7427184/ ill qoute a good bit for you, " To make an overtake stick on the inside of a corner, a driver only needs to have their front wheel in front of the defending car’s rear wheel for it to be judged a fair move. "
By your "reasoning" (using that term very loosely), an alongside driver can choose to absolutely straight-line the turn, and make zero steering input toward the apex ... and the ahead driver has no choice but to oblige, and drive straight off-track. Obviously pure nonsense, to anyone with a functioning brain cell. The ahead driver must leave enough room at apex for an alongside driver. Full stop. Which is exactly what Verstappen did. The ahead driver is under no obligation to straight-line the turn, maybe apply full brakes, turn around drive the circuit backwards ... just to avoid a collision with an alongside driver who is attempting to overtake, but failing miserably to actually negotiate the turn.
Yes, the Hamilton fans want us to believe that if Hamilton is alongside ... meaning, the other driver is ahead ... Hamilton gets to dictate all actions at the turn. Hamilton wants to straight-line, instead of turn? The driver AHEAD must oblige, and drive straight off track !!! Pure NONSENSE.
I You know full well when overtaking (unless you are in a red bull) needs to be done on track. You looked at what i put, knew you was wrong so thought you would try be pedantic. You know full well the car up the inside dictates the racing line. You know full well, that you will say any thing to protect that fake title of maxs. You will do any thing to keep pushing your hatred of lewis even if it clouds your judgement, will even tell the whole world Piquet didnt discriminate lewis and claim the british media are causing the trouble even though it was in fact Brazil media and he was being torn up by Brazilian papers and the news and that mps want him charged. ( but will still blame British media such is your blindness of hatred) Even tell people that they should be looking left while turning right whilst driving at 280 km/p. So for me its clear, its not that i am wrong, you are just in denial and blinded by hate You also know full well i am not a ham fan. Lewis only got a penalty because of the out come, stewards are not supposed to decide penalties on the out come. just to avoid a collision with an alongside driver who is attempting to overtake, but failing miserably to actually negotiate the turn. So why did max not get a penalty for any of these when he does it to lewis? I already linked the brazil corner? Ohh yes because lewis avoided a crash.. So lewis got punishment for the out come. Max fake ginger ninja champion.
