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  1. mtodd1402

    mtodd1402 Rookie

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    I have a couple questions on Scuderia pricing as I am in the market.

    1. What is the real going rate for Scuderias? It seems all the recent listings are over $300K but also all of those listing just seem to sit without selling. Has anyone bought or sold one recently? We seem to be in a bit of a stalemate market where the difference between asking price and offer price is significant.

    2. How much does mileage effect pricing on these cars? How much less (%) is a 25,000 mile car from a 15,000 car from a 5,000 mile car? (All things being equal, clean Carfax, good maintenance records etc.)

    3. Anyone know of one not listed that might be for sale?
     
  2. Kent Adams

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    Personally, I wouldn't pay anywhere near $300k for a Scud, regardless of miles when you can get a 458 Spider for that much. Now a 16M with low mileage I would. I would entertain $225k for a 15k mileage Scud.
     
  3. flash32

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    #2;.. approx 2k per mile under 10k miles and then about 1k over 10k miles

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  4. MKS0129

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    I paid 300K for 09 Red 2,000 miles back in April. 1 Owner car. Immaculate. Has almost 3,000 miles now :)
     
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  5. mtodd1402

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    Outlier in mileage makes for outlier in price. I’m seeing asking prices of $315-$325k for cars with 15-20k miles.
     
  6. mtodd1402

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    $2k per 1000 miles?
     
  7. mtodd1402

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    You have a 15k mile scud for sale?
     
  8. MKS0129

    MKS0129 Karting

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    So little supply of clean no storied cars. You find the right one if buy it. If it’s a short term hold I’d be worried when I go back to sale at a loss. I still think at 250-300k for these cars it’s a real bargain.
     
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  9. flash32

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    Yes 2k for each 1000 miles under 10k and 1k for each 1000 over 10k

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  10. flash32

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    Also 2008 vs 2009 10k due to carbon bits
    Red vs others ( yellow black etc) about 10k more for others (pink :) )
    Triple layer paint a little more
     
  11. ttforcefed

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    what if the 2008 has the carbon bits?
     
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  12. flash32

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    If it has all the carbon including the front and rear diffuser..i would say a wash

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  13. flash32

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    So take my last two posts and start with a 260 base for nice car with 12k on it and deduct / add based on my posts

    Not scientific but close

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  14. ttforcefed

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    what if its a manual?
     
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  15. ShineKen

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    08 with all carbon bits is practically the same car as an 09. Only difference is the badge look on top of the center AC vents.
     
  16. ShineKen

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    Priceless :).
     
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  17. ShineKen

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    Median price for Scud should be higher than 458 imo. They made quite a bit of 458's.
     
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  18. flash32

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    Honestly don't know .. probably 1.5 times the cost of conversion plus formula above

    This will have to be a buyer looking for that ..it may be smaller subset of the true scud crowd

    Since I only know of yours ..i would say supply and demand can cause a crazy bid war on BAT etc

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  19. ShineKen

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    Since there's only one in the world and only one place that has proven to convert successfully, the price is really what TTForce decides to let it go for. It'll be much higher than 1.5x conversion costs I can tell you that much.
     
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  20. flash32

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    That is why I said this


    Since I only know of yours ..i would say supply and demand can cause a crazy bid war on BAT etc

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  21. LARRYH

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    How do modified 36o manuals sell compared to non modified 360 ..it would expect the ratio to be simliar it to be similar…i know true manual 360s sell for a lot more than a F1 360…..but have no idea how a modified one sells price wise…truthfully o a, not a fan of a modified car….i sure wish the factory made a manual scud…

    re scud pricing in general i think they are a deal right now I have owned 2 and still have number 2 if has less than 10 k miles and is red in excellent condition it is a 2009 and to me it is more desirable then the 16M have no idea what its worth but its in my permanent collection…
    Ferrari will never build another Like it……. i recently sold my Pista on BAT for well over 100k over list while it was a real beautiful car it just lacked the sole of a scud….
     
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  22. ShineKen

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    I've always respected your honestly Larry. We need more Fchatters like yourself :).
     
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  23. LARRYH

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    Thank you i really try to tell it like I think for whats its worth
     
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  24. ShineKen

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    Wait.. was the last Pista on BAT yours?
     
  25. LARRYH

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    Mine was the one that sold june 2 i believe for 553k….a very nice car red of course it seems i paid 5 under with 200miles they were asking 160k over but
    I like to deal so and sold it for 105 over…so 110 over sales price i think i could be slightly off but from memory
     
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