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  1. lagunacc

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    “I think it’s always a matter of continuous learning and building, building experience, building skills, and today certainly there is something in which we need to look and understand why. I think we simply need to address what has gone [on] today, that we need to first understand, and then to address and try to be back competitive as it has been in 12 races so far and no reason why it cannot be the case at the next.”

    If Kimi was still around he'd be the perfect match for Bino.
     
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  3. jgonzalesm6

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  4. Edward 96GTS

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    ferrari management is aware.
     
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  5. jgonzalesm6

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    I'm wondering did Ferrari "sabotage" Leclerc's strategy in favor for Sainz? Look at Pirellis pit strategy graph from all the drivers.

    It seems Sainz had a better pit strat than Leclerc's over the duration of the race.

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  6. Edward 96GTS

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    the simplist explanation is
    the right explanation.
     
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  7. tonyc

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    That should make us all sad :(
     
  8. tonyc

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    I know LEC is young, him and Sainz may need to take over and question all pit wall calls like Hammy does.
     
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  10. zygomatic

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    The #2 role at Ferrari may be the easier of the two. With less attention and strategic help from the pit wall, they run pretty vanilla strategies. Well, that is until they believe it is time to help the #1. However, at the rate they're botching the #1 driver's strategy, it puts the #2 in a good position to do well in most races.
     
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  11. 67bmer

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    There is something fundamentally wrong with this team!

    If management won't implement change then the sponsors, with money, should demand change!

    When announcers and rank amateurs can spot the fundamental flaws in strategy race after race one can't help but wonder what is going wrong! Is it their AI, their data, their personnel, modeling, etc.? Race after race, this is becoming tragic! No team with perhaps the best car and two of the best 6, 8 10 drivers have ever thrown away a championship like this. The only way it could get worse is if the cars blew up on the parade lap...
     
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    Ferrari really needs to re-learn how to win a race and hope they can build another car for next season...
     
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  13. ingegnere

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    More evidence of incompetence out of trying to invent a clever strategy instead of doing the most reasonable thing:

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    Still, surprisingly, not only Ferrari but Haas, Alpine and McLaren decided to try the hards.
     
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    Now I’ve seen it all.
     
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  15. Bas

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    Incredible. Because yes why not focus on the guy that was (past tense at this point) our most likely championship candidate by far.

    Was about to post this to @jgonzalesm6 ....they where told beforehand! And Ferrari claims ''based on the running on friday (completely different temps) it's a great tyre" ?! They didn't even use the tyre on their cars:mad::mad::mad::mad:

    Then he goes on to blame the one great thing this year: The car.

    I have never, ever seen such sheer incompetence in a single team.
     
  16. Bas

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    Her line "It's not ALL about the numbers says it all. I said it last week after the French GP, it seems that Ferrari look purely at the numbers and have no idea what's happening on track. If they had taken 20 seconds at any point during the race just to see what the Hard runners where doing, they'd have instantly seen that the tyre was terrible. Keep Lec on mediums for the time being since he was happy on them, then with roughly 20 laps to go, switch to the soft.

    It's like no one can read a race at Ferrari.
     
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    The talk between Vanzini and Mattia was surreal, Binotto was getting pissed by the insistense of Carlo on the bad strategy and the fact that Charles would at least finished second if they had done same as elton....it was embarassing to say the least.
     
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    All Italy is falling on Ferrari, and literaly trashing Binotto for saying they had no pace, i doubt things will remain the same for next race, someone must go.
     
  19. Patrick Dixon

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    AFIAK he's Spanish. Not that it matters.
     
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  20. 375+

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    So is Santander, Sainz too.o_O
     
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  22. Patrick Dixon

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    Ahh, a conspiracy! I do love a conspiracy!

    (Although in my experience it's usually just incompetence)
     
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  23. Bas

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  24. ingegnere

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    Only if people are accusing them of making pizzas instead of watching the race :p

    Anyway, talking about this guy (reporting to said Spaniard):



    As I noted before, he sounds sharp enough but somehow the intelligence doesn’t translate to the track.
     
  25. 375+

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    If it's the Same Old S**t after the break then I give up.
     

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