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  1. SimCity3

    SimCity3 F1 Rookie


    You may well be right. The FIA have given Masi some silence money. He probably had to deal with more political BS than people realise.
     
  2. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    IMO the primary reason Masi was released from his position was because they knew that every decision made if he stayed would be questioned over and over. Good or bad.
     
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  3. jgonzalesm6

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    Back in 2006, Ferrari supplied engines to Redbull and Binotto was working in the Ferrari PU department so was working with the team managing the integration.

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  4. ingegnere

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  5. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    A reply on Twitter in that post above = If toto was actually powerful Abu Dhabi wouldn't have happened lol or the results would've changed

    Mario you dont just get a team on the grid because you want it lol. Now that the teams are 'investment vehicles' they have to consider their worth over time. Dilution is noted and not only is Toto talking about it. Nice cheap shot by Mario not based on the overall picture at all.

    I think they would be a good addition to the sport but 1 person in total is not STOPPING this at all. Ridiculous.
     
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  6. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Ferrari: F1 team orders idea discussed more outside than internally
    Ferrari says the use of team orders between Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz is “more discussed outside Ferrari than inside Ferrari” as it targets parity with its Formula 1 drivers.
     
  7. ingegnere

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    Again, typical blinkered comments with no basis of common sense.

    The only reason he did nothing about Masi at AD was that he had no time to fix the problem to his liking. But he sure did take care of the problem afterwards, didn’t he?

    Just like he’s the only one of the TPs regularly quoted moaning about Andretti’s entry and Mario probably knows more about the situation that you do, right?

    And the only one regularly going on about the bouncing “problem”. If you want to see just his far up the FIA puppets’ ***es Toto’s hand is, just look at how, despite the new AOM rules to control bouncing and “keep the drivers safe”, the FIA is still forcing design changes for next year so so the teams who have their cars working well will have to start from scratch—and waste money doing so—just so his team has a better chance to catch the others.
     
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  8. Bas

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    100% this
     
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  9. Mosin

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    If you add one more team and take 10% of each of the teams revenue, those already on the bread line will collapse, no thanks, development is already restricted, for teams to lose another 10%... Might as well become a spec series.

    Worth noting all the teams have spoke out against it too.
     
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  12. DF1

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    U are delusional lol - https://www.planetf1.com/news/fred-vasseur-andretti-scepticism/
     
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  13. DeSoto

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    Please someone explain me what this issue with Andretti is about. Supposedly, the outrageous 200 million entry fee is for avoiding noobs, so it´s not Fred Vasseur or whoever´s job to decide who is "diluting the brand" (translation into non-F1 common language: taking my money).

    And I get Fred Vasseur has interest in not getting more teams, but FIA and Liberty should be eager to get them.
     
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  14. Bas

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    #1264 Bas, Aug 14, 2022
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  15. DF1

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    #1265 DF1, Aug 14, 2022
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    The teams as an entity see dilution of money being paid out to them if Andretti shows up(paid to 11 teams not 10). None of that is a secret and has been discussed for months. Small and large teams overall are not supportive yet. Personally I find it interesting that Andretti is willing to join in and they have racing heritage. What they are not is a maker with deep pockets. I find that the unspoken issue.
     
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  16. DeSoto

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    I think it shouldn´t matter if the other teams, or even the FIA, oppose new entries: there are some conditions set (200 million conditions to be more precise), if someone meets those conditions he should be in. Otherwise, new entries could be used as a political weapon. It already happened when Mosley got those three mini-teams (Lotus, Virgin and HRT) in and rejected other entries (Prodrive) to promote his budget cap (although in the end it didn´t happen and those teams collapsed).
     
  17. jpalmito

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    Seeing Briatore with Dominicali and Wolff tell us everything we need to know about Formula one now.
     
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  18. crinoid

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    Yeah, in fact I would say Briatore is probably the most trustworthy of the three. LOL
     
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  19. DF1

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    LOL funny!!! :)
     
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  20. Mitch Alsup

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    Horner is running a team that is never farther down than 3rd in prize money and wants more.
     
  21. william

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    The 200 millions are just an entry fee, like "deposit" to the FIA, to show any new team has some financial backing.

    These 200 millions are not there to compensate other teams for their 10% annual loss.
     
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  22. william

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    But it's Horner's job to defend his team !! Why is it so difficult to understand?

    F1 isn't a charity, it's big business with cut throat competition.
     
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  23. jgonzalesm6

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    Now you understand Horner's frustration with Renault when Renault supplied engines to RedBull during the turbo-hybrid era and Horner thru Renault under the bus....they were and still are "crappy" engines.
     
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  24. william

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    I don't see the link between the 2 issues.
     

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