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F430 transmission fluid reservoir hose

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  1. wklinez327

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    I’m guessing this is not the correct factory hose based on the hose clamp and the collapse of the hose in the bend.
    Are there and alternatives other then the factory hose?
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  2. ItalGerBrit

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    Is there a leak or a problem?
     
  3. wklinez327

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    I had the dreaded Slow Down and F1 symbol. Then it seems to have puked out the fluid from the reservoir. I’ve pulled off engine panels and inner fender liner. Cleaned like crazy. Then refilled reservoir. Open closed the door multiple times. Pump seems to pressurize in 5 or 10 seconds. I then vacuum bled the system. It goes from R to 1 and back and always starts in neutral. I’ve been able to manually shift gears while on my lift. I can’t find any leaks. I was wondering if the kink in the hose is causing issues.
     
  4. flash32

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    I don't think that is your issue
    How are you measuring the fluid ?
    Tell us more about what is happening .. cold hot ? what was done recently ( if anything)
    how long does the pump stay off once primed after you turn key on ?
     
  5. wklinez327

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    Currently measuring cold. Previously checked hot 6 months ago.
    I’ve had no Slow Down light until yesterday after a 20 mile drive, mostly highway in Auto mode the entire way. Light came on after a hard right hander. Went into Neutral. I was able to get her back in 1st and pulled into my neighborhood. Fluid was leaking out as I pulled into my garage. A good size puddle was there in the morning. I guess I still had enough fluid to back her out and down the driveway before putting her in 1st and driving into my garage that had the lift.

    when I open the door the pump comes on for 2 seconds. When I turn the key it comes on for 1 second. I start the car and seems fine going from N to R to 1. I guess I’ll throw the wheel back on and try going around the block.
     
  6. flash32

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    The proper way to measure .. open reservoir ..turn key on and immediately after pump stops ..you should have 6 mm above plate ..about half a finger nail (not much)

    Please let me know how long the pump stays off

    So far you are experiencing a failed accumulator..it seems ..need a few more data points

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  7. flash32

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    Unless you have a true hose / line failure..leaking all over the place

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  8. mike32

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    If you are keeping the tank at 5 to 6 mm above the plate and you find the tank is over flowing, it is possible that this non standard tank hose is leaking- you can get air drawn into the suction hose by the pump suction- the air gets mixed with the fluid in the form of tiny bubbles, this increases the oil volume in the system so when you stop the car and the pressure dies down overnight the tank overflows.
    Common in industrial systems
     
  9. wklinez327

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    Image Unavailable, Please Login Car drives fine but starts leaking fluid after a couple shifts. Drenched everything with brake cleaner, wiped everything down. Cut off the woven heat sleeve so I can see each hose separately and be sure none have sprung a leak. Tomorrow I’ll get someone in the drivers seat and raise her up on the lift and watch as the car goes in and out of gear to see where the fluid is coming from.
     
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  10. mike32

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    I had a leak on mine , showing on the ground by the right hand rear wheel. We could find no source of the leak in that area. Eventually traced to the banjo bolt on the e diff hose on the other side, it was running across the car from left to right. Check this hose for rubbing on the body, i put a short length of split airline over mine to protect it.
     
  11. mwstewart

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    I don't recognise that pump head. It doesn't look like original equipment to me.
     
  12. mike32

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    The hose has a crimp on one end and a jubilee on the other end, so its been worked on
     
  13. wklinez327

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    Definitely blown hoses. Once I removed the fire sleeve I could see the fluid fly out as the car was shifted from gear to gear. Looks like three are leaking.
     
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  14. flash32

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    Ok ..there are places that sell replacements at a fraction of Ferrari..just letting you know

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  16. wklinez327

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    Thanks, should get a quote today from a local hydraulic shop.
     
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  18. mike32

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    Most of the connections are standard except No 3, that will be hard to find
     
  19. wklinez327

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  20. flash32

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    Thats' great .. just a question is 1000 psi enough ( just a question) .. the pump can make up to almost 850 psi ..
     
  21. wklinez327

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    My mistake 4500 PSI for the Teflon stainless braided lines.
     
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  22. wklinez327

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    On the top picture it looks previous work on the car reversed the bottom two bolts. The factory service manual shows a smooth headed banjo bolt. I looked at the parts lists online and as best I can tell EV3, 4 and 5 should have matching banjo bolts. Which is what the factory service manual shows. My numbers have nothing to do with the EV numbers. They are just to help me get the correct lines on each end.
     
  23. wklinez327

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    Replaced all the hoses then purchased a Launch x431 so I could bleed the transmission and EDIFF. Fun trying to keep the reservoir from running out of fluid during each bleed.
    Cleared all codes and took her around the block. Shifts better then she ever did before. Ver consistent now. Drove 30 miles in Sport, race, manual and auto modes. Everything thing went well, so buttoned everything back up and went for a longer drive. So far so good!
    The launch tool worked well but is far from intuitive.
     
  24. flash32

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    Great [emoji106] job

    If you ever need help with the launch let me know

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