The 15 New Models by 2026 - What We Know

It's a new world, Elkann (Chairman since summer 2018) has zero interest, so Ferrari has zero interest, Elkann is all about "electric"....

I doubt there will ever be another XX car based on a V12 engine...it was nice and we had some great editions, but I think it is all done.

 

Quite reasonable to presume, same top leadership (Elkann), but, maybe not as Elkann is all about "the quiet'

 

I understand Avengers, Star Wars, and Techno music ain't everyone's cup of tea.
Some prefer 40's Superman, Flash Gorden, and Big Band.

That's fine.

I point out that the video above is anything but quiet. Furthermore, just like ICE nowadays is theoretically all 'artificial' based on pipes, plumbing, tuning, and chambers (I'm not talking about speakers) - current technology can make any ICE car quiet. It's purposeful.

The anathema raw vacuum cleaner noise can equally be manipulated.

I get some people refuse to drink Coke Zero, only watch Live Music, never sit in a massage chair, deny Fabreeze, and only accept Original paintings.

 

WoW !
What a dream !

 

Makes my ears bleed.

 

I think it best when the entire results are shared.

For those interested:

EP3863153A1 ROTARY ELECTRIC MACHINE WITH BAR STATOR WINDING
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP21155604&tab=main&lng=en

to view entire patent, go here:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search?q=pn=EP3863153

and download the PDF:
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Claim [0040] is interesting..."the spokes are shared as to generate ... a predetermined sound...during the rotation ... the generation of a desired sound"

 

Otherwise, what is special about this electric motor? Some pretty sharp engineers have been working on these for decades, what is it that Ferrari claims to have accomplished that others failed to do, to make this patentable?

Does it have greater power for it's weight or is somehow more efficient?

What is left to invent or innovate on for electric motors for cars?

 

another shade of red?
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This is absolutely gawd awful. I don't care how much cheerleading the EV proponents do, that sound is torture. They might as well tell us rap is the future of music, and "you will like it.".

 

I thought the Roma was being discontinued after the 2024 model year.

 

Absolutely agree on everything.
An era of ugliness..

 

This is all the information I have. Not entirely sure how accurate it is but it did come from a trusted source.
Purosangue
ICE V12
Hybrid V8
2WD+4WD
Expected late 2022/early 2023

Roma MCA
Roma Spider
ICE V8
2WD
Expected early/mid 2023

F173VS (SF90 updated)
more extreme SF90 Stradale, featuring a wing, quad exhaust tips and S duct similar to the 488 Pista. Expected by late 2023.
F173VS Spider
Hybrid V8
AWD
Expected mid 2023

Ferrari F250
Hypercar replacement
Hybrid V12
2WD
Expected late 2023/early 2024

GT V12 (812 replacement)
ICE V12
2WD
expected late 2023/early 2024

296 GTB VS “Dino” and 296 GTS VS “Dino”
more extreme version of the 296, track focused and performance oriented.
Hybrid V6
2WD
Expected early 2024/mid 2024

Full electric supercar
Based on the SF90
EV powered
2WD+AWD
Expected late 2024/ early 2025

F244- full electric SUV
Based on the Purosangue
EV powered
2WD+4WD
expected late 2024/ early 2025

Icona n. 3
Icona n. 4
Both expected late 2025/ early 2026

296 GTB MCA
296 GTS MCA
Evaluation of the 296 platform for future lineup
Hybrid V6
2WD+AWD
Expected mid 2026/early 2027

*VS (Versione Speciale) more aggressive, performance and track focused variant.

*MCA (Mid cycle Analysis) redesign of current model and evaluation of the direction in the range for the future.

*ICE (internal combustion engine-non hybrid)



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Thanks.
Nevertheless I really doubt the Laferrari replacement will have a V12 hybrid..

 

That's just the worst sound I've ever heard in my life. It's like a torture session. 30 seconds of this gave me a headache.
In the not-too-distant future the EV gang will want people to eat bricks and enjoy it.

 

What I heard is that the F250 would be the V12 hyper.

As far as I know the F255 is the LMH Hypercar (V6+hybrid).

So would the F250 be a direct successor to LaFerrari? (V12+hybrid). Although I also heard that Ferrari would not use hybridization in V12, but who knows.

About the F250 being an EV, I don't know if Ferrari will make another EV in this decade besides the future EV Purosangue and the F244. Vigna stated that the main focus will be on hybridization, not full EV.

If I made a mistake about something, I apologize.

 

According to Ferrari the next 'supercar' is NOT V12, it will be related to the LMH (but should be V8):

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Sound is entirely subjective. Some folks hate the witch's bubble of American V8s, other's think it's heaven's siren call.

One thing that is not in question is speed, performance, and the ability to make any sound you want.

ICE combustion is already manipulated to produce anything from near silence to hell's bells.

I just think never is a long time to say engineers will forever fail to make an electric motor ever 'sound good.'

And if Star Wars and Marvell franchisees tell me anything.

 

Some folks hate how motorcycles scream down roads; others think they are audio nirvana.

Today, the only option is either/or. Tomorrow one vehicle be able to produce both in the future.

Now, of course, I hate faux anything. I would hope the high-end exotic brands would stay pure to some authenticity.

In terms of rank and file? If the plethora of fake scoops, plastic intakes (to nowhere), false diffusers, faux side vents, lookalike carbon fiber, and exaggerated exhausts tell me anything. It might be a battle already lost.

Sound thing engineering and progress don't stop.

 

Tell that to Herbert Von Karajan who considered the sound of the V 12 as music !

 

https://sfcriga.com/herbert-von-karajan-and-cesare-picco-the-noise-of-ferrari

...Another comparison the musician made was that of the Ferrari to the one he has defined as the “piano car.” “Like the cars I saw today, apparently similar but actually never the same, also each piano is quite different to the other and being able to obtain the best performances depends largely on the pilot’s or musician’s skill. The piano also has twelve notes like the 12 cylinders of your engines and that’s another similarity I would like to emphasise.”

 

I was thinking about just this the other day. I have a favorite tunnel I like to traverse. I took my Dino V12 this weekend, and I must be honest and say I prefer my Dino V8. I was listening to F1 cars on YouTube. I liked the V10s and V8s over the V12s.

Again, not saying there is a right/wrong for 100% of people; on the contrary, other people here are doing that.

Projection, by definition, is often not self-aware.