355 Missing 355’s (U.S) from the 355 Registry

Carried on my findings in the 355 Registry

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/355-registry.123485/page-86


I spoke to Rob @285ferrari and he says he can’t find much time these days or reason to add to the Registry.

I believe Rob has 90%+ of U.S 355’s already captured in his Registry. I believe there’s only 225 cars missing.

Let’s help complete the U.S list once and for all .

If you’ve plugged in a U.S 355 and found no listing in the Registry, please post details of the car in this thread. The more info, the better.

https://ferrari355registry.com/


My findings show 99% of 95 & 99 cars are most likely already accounted for. I believe the missing cars are 96,97,and 98 model years, with 98 having the most missing.

 

I’ll start:

1998 GTS

1. ZFFXR42A6W0112250 Red/Tan F1 GTS
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-gts-6/

2. ZFFXR42A1W0110485 Rosso Barchetta/Tan GTS Manual
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-gts-5/

 

1998 Spider

1. ZFFXR48A7W0111342 Black/Tan Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-32/

2. ZFFXR48A7W0109753 Yellow/Black Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-30/

3. ZFFXR48A8W0111060 Silver/ Black&Red Interior / Red top Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-28/

 

1998 Berlinetta

1. ZFFXR41A1W0112058 Black/Tan F1 GTB
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-berlinetta-4/

2. ZFFXR41A3W0111218 Red/Tan F1 GTB
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-12/

3. ZFFXR41A3W0109615 Red/Tan Manual GTB
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-10/

4. ZFFXR41A1W0110441 Red/Tan Manual GTB
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-berlinetta-2/

5. ZFFXR41A7W0110928 Yellow/Black F1 GTB
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355berlinetta/

6. ZFFXR41A4W0112281 Red/Black Manual GTB (Challenge car)
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-challenge-2/

7. ZFFXR41A9W0109764 Black/Tan Manual GTB
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-6/

8. ZFFXR41A9W0109814 Yellow/Black Manual GTB
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-gtb/

9. ZFFXR41A2W011159 Yellow/Black F1
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-3/

10. ZFFXR41A9W0109814 Yellow/Black Manual
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-2/

11. ZFFXR41A2W0111503 Red/Tan F1 GTB
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355/

12. ZFFXR41B00111592 Yellow/Black (Challenge car)
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-challenge/

 

1998 GTS

1. ZFFXR42A6W0112250 Red/Tan F1 GTS
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-gts-6/

2. ZFFXR42A1W0110485 Rosso Barchetta/Tan GTS Manual
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-gts-5/

3. ZFFXR42A8W0109690 Yellow/Black Manual GTS
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-gts-2-2/

 

1998 Spider

1. ZFFXR48A7W0111342 Black/Tan Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-32/

2. ZFFXR48A7W0109753 Yellow/Black Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-30/

3. ZFFXR48A8W0111060 Silver/ Black&Red Interior / Red top Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-28/

4. ZFFXR48A3W0110723 Silver/Black/Black Top Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-25/

5. ZFFXR48A3W0111872 Red/Tan/Black Too Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-24/

6. ZFFXR48A7W0109753 Yellow/Black/Black Top Manual Spider

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-17/

7. ZFFXR48A8W0111981 Silver/Black F1 Spider (Shaq car)
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-18/

8. ZFFXR48A5W0111582 Yellow/Black/Black Top Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-19/

9. ZFFXR48AXW0110766 Silver/Black/Black Top Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-16/

10. ZFFXR48A8W0111298 Red/Tan/Black Top Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-11/

11. ZFFXR48A8W0111060 Silver/Black/Black Top Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-10/

12. ZFFXR48A1W0110994 Yellow/Black/Black Top Manual Spider.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-6/


13. ZFFXR48AXW0110847 Grigio Titanio/Dark Blue Manual Spider https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-7/

14. ZFFXR48A1W0112065 Silver/Blue Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-2/

15. ZFFXR48AXW0110587 TDF/Crema Manual Spider
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-3/

 

Perhaps I should re-word. Roughly 225 cars missing by estimation.

I’ve already posted 30 of them.

 

It’s very disappointing of Rob. I spent a long time gathering information and trying to post maintenance details of my car twice to the registry, after seeing that it wasn’t being updated. I finely contacted Rob receiving the same answer. No time to update. Rob should let someone else take it over.

 

Here are 21 additional missing North American Berlinettas and GTSes:

(There is a duplicate 1995 Berlinetta Manual entry in the Registry - ZFFPR41A6S0100868 - Rosso Corsa over tan). I haven't looked for additional duplicates.

1995:

1995 GTS Manual - ZFFPR4ZB000102602 - NJ Salvage due to Hurricane Sandy. Was Black, then painted white with a black interior.


1996:

1996 GTS Manual - ZFFXR42A3T0105932 - Clean Title Nero Carbonio Metallic over Red/Black Sport Seats with 29k miles.


1997:

1997 Berlinetta Manual - ZFFXR41A1V0107893 - Florida Salvage with 35k+ miles as of 2014. FChat post, but no other info.

1997 Berlinetta Manual - ZFFXR41A1V0107683 - Blue Salvage sold with entire interior stripped and front end damage in 2021.

1997 Berlinetta Manual - ZFFXR41A1V0109045 - Avus Bianco over tan Salvage. Front end accident plus rear end damage with 29,522 miles. Sold in 2021.


1997 GTS Manual - ZFFXR42A9V0108238 - Rosso Fiorano/Rubino? over tan Salvage. Considerable damage overall, not repairable. Unknown mileage. Sold 2018

1997 GTS Manual - ZFFXR42AXV0108426 - Black over tan Clean Title with 50,116. Unsold by Mecum Monterey 2016.


1998:

1998 Berlinetta Unknown Transmission - ZFFXR41A5W0111012 - Rosso Corsa over tan Salvage. Entire car was burned. Unknown mileage. Sold in 2019.


1998 Berlinetta Manual - ZFFXR41A4W0111485 - Silver over Cuoio Clean Title. Sold via Bonhams Quail Lodge Auction in 2017 with 26,190 miles. California car.

1998 Berlinetta Manual - ZFFXR41A9W0110204 - Black over tan Clean Title. https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1998-ferrari-f355-berlinetta-1/

1998 Berlinetta Manual (Canadian) - ZFFXS41A2W0111649 - Argento Nurburgring over black Clean Title. https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1998-ferrari-f355/


1998 Berlinetta F1 - ZFFXR41A7W0110928 - Giallo Modena over black Clean Title. https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1998-ferrari-f355-berlinetta/

1998 Berlinetta F1 - ZFFXR41A1W0110956 - Rosso Corsa over tan Clean Title. https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/27012/1998-ferrari-355

1998 Berlinetta F1 - ZFFXR41A4W0111230 - Rosso Barchetta over tan Clean Title. Currently For Sale via Beverly Hills Car Club for $67,500.

1998 Berlinetta F1 - ZFFXR41A8W0111229 - Rosso Corsa over tan. Unknown Title.


1998 GTS Manual - ZFFXR42A6W0110062 - Black over black Salvage due to flood damage. Sold in 2021 with 33,354 miles.


1998 GTS F1 - ZFFXR42A3WO111427 - Rosso Fiorano? over tan Salvage with 15,789 miles. Unknown damage.

1998 GTS F1 - ZFFXR42A5W0111820 - Blue Pozzi over tan Clean Title with 32,495 miles. Unsold at Mecum Kissimmee 2016.

1998 GTS F1 - ZFFXR42A9W0110914 - Azzurro California over Bordeaux Clean Title with 16,494 miles. Currently For Sale at Ferrari Naples for $155,991.

1998 GTS F1 - ZFFXR42A5W0110943 - Giallo over Black Clean Title with 11,300 miles. Painted roof. Unsold by RM Sotheby's in 2020 at $100k.


1999:

*1999 Berlinetta Manual - ZFFXR41A0X0115583 - Black over tan Clean Title. *In the Registry, but with Unknown Transmission & Colors. Unsold by Mecum in 2015.

 

I’m not understanding the purpose of this thread. Is Rob going to use his information and update his registry website?

 

I think it's being used as an Addendum to the Registry. It's good to have a reference in addition to the Registry for future sales and production data. I'm personally not interested in Spiders, so I didn't search for Salvage or previous sales. @ShineKen that's all you!

I went through the Classic.com info (VIN's posted at the top of just about every link) and searched for previous Copart/IAAI/Geico sales, but they only go back about 5 years. I have a feeling that many more cars were Salvaged/parted out after accidents/flood damage during the Great Recession when these cars were barely worth anything.

 

Yes. Even if Rob doesn’t add it, we have it here. Once most of the missing cars are found, we can figure out once and for all how many U.S 355’s were made and it what variation with 95% + accuracy.

 

@Closingtime Your samples corroborate my data. 1 95 car. No 99 car. A few 96 & 97’s and a bunch of 98’s.

 

I understand your frustration but we can't be too mad. If it weren't for him there wouldn't be any registry.
The problem is once you make it you are now a slave to it for the rest of your life.

 

Guys I just want understand your wish, do you want know all "North American 355 type" even if some were sold new outside USA or you want to know all 355 registered in US, even those come from Europe for example ?

 

We are trying to figure out how many total 355s were originally sold in the U.S. From there, it will be helpful to know the break down of B/GTS/Spider and by year, color, and transmission. CF sport seats would be the next option, which I've been working on for overall production. I have only 9 U.S. spec factory manual cars originally optioned with the CF seats in my database.

I am a former owner of an Alfa Romeo 4C and there is a guy named John who cracked the code on VINs. For example, we now know how many were imported into the U.S. and Canada and how many Coupes were specced in pearl white with a carbon fiber roof and Akrapovic Exhaust in 2018. Chrysler has a window sticker lookup, which makes it easier to view options. Ferrari production data has long been elusive, but we can probably figure out the mix of 355s.

 

Personally, I just want to know the 355’s that were designated and spec’d to the U.S market with 95% accuracy. What comes from outside of the U.S or leaves the U.S can be part of the 5% data.

I’ve seen U.S spec cars in Europe and vice versa. The highest sold manual GTS on BAT just went to Canada. There’s also a bunch of written off cars. I don’t know if all of that is possible to track. 95% accuracy is all we can hope for. Right now, we’re about 90% accuracy according to my estimation.

 

@bertrand328 If you look up a former Lamborghini salesman turned VinWiki entrepreneur named Ed Bolian, you'll see that he compiled a list of the manual transmission Murcielago LP640s. He proved how rare they are and prices have skyrocketed as a result.

While our cars aren't as rare as manual Murcielago LP640s, they are still extremely rare in the overall collector car market and are undervalued as a result. I've been tracking mostly emerging collector cars for years and have over 800 different models from A-Z with production #s for just about every one. All it takes is 1 outlier sale to spike the market for one car model. The TDF Blue GTS auction currently on Bring a Trailer will open up any collector's eyes and naysayers still stuck in 2019 pricing or worried about mileage/Carfax dings.

 

@Closingtime @ShineKen Of course you know that it's a very long time to manage a serious registry. I try do mine ( about 328 ) and know others ( very few ) who do same.
That said you are lucky because many information from US car are easy to get. IMHO you can first look at FML issue since 1995 and you will find lot of datas which have been verified ( not as those you can find on the web or "quick" registry )
My 2 CTS

 

Indeed the result of the BaT auction will be interesting. Especially for the European who look at the US market since few months and saw crazy price compare to Euro market

 

Just went over all of Pcar’s and Car and Bid’s 355 listings, which aren’t very many.

Here are the few that don’t show up in the Registry.

1997 Spider

1. ZFFXR48A8V0107654 Red/Red Manual Spider

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/dealtank-1997-ferrari-f355-spider/


1998 Spider

1. ZFFXR48A6W0112398 Red/Tan F1 Spider
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1998-ferrari-f355-spider/


1998 Berlinetta

1. ZFFXR41A9W0110204 Black/Tan Manual

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1998-ferrari-f355-berlinetta-1/





This Yellow/Black 98 F1 Berlinetta doesn’t show up either, but it’s a repeat of a BAT listing I already posted. #5 on the 98 Berlinetta list.

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1998-ferrari-f355-berlinetta/



So 3 more cars added from Pcar and Car and Bids history. All 3 355’s on Car and Bids are im the Registry.

 

Current EBAY listings:

1997 GTS

1. ZFFXR42A4V0108485 Red/Black Manual GTS



1998 Berlinetta

1. ZFFXR41A2W0110187 Red / Tan F1 Berlinetta


1998 Spider

1. ZFFXR48A4W0111914 Red/Tan/Black Top F1 Spider

2. ZFFXR48A4W0111721 White/Red & Black Interior/ Red Top / Red calipers Manual Spider. Very Unique





There are 5 1999 cars and 2 1995 cars. All show in the Registry.


Still seems to be a strong pattern of 98 cars missing.

 

Classic.com

1998 GTS

1. ZFFXR42A6W0110062 Triple Black Manual GTS
https://www.classic.com/veh/1998-ferrari-355-gts-zffxr42a6w0110062-8p6oRL4/

2. ZFFXR42A5W0111820 Pozzi Blue /Tan/ Red calipers. F1 GTS. Beautiful!
https://www.motion-consulting.com/project/1998-ferrari-355gts-f1/



1998 Berlinetta

1. ZFFXR41A4W0111230 RB/Tan F1 GTB. Accident.
https://www.classic.com/veh/1998-ferrari-f355-berlinetta-f1-zffxr41a4w0111230-p6rYjmp/

2. ZFFXR41A2W011159 Yellow/Black F1 Berlinetta
https://www.classic.com/veh/1998-ferrari-f355-f1-berlinetta-zffxr41a2w011159-PWxjoR4/




1998 Spider

1. ZFFXR48A5W0110576 Grigio Titanio/ Black /Black Manual Spider
https://www.classic.com/veh/1998-ferrari-f355-spider-zffxr48a5w0110576-WLmQPkp/


*2. ZFFXR48A4W0111072 White/Tan/Black Top Manual Spider. Wow!

https://www.classic.com/veh/1998-ferrari-355-spider-convertible-zffxr48a4w0111-M4DNloW/


3. ZFFXR48A8W0112810 Red/Tan/Black Top F1 Spider

https://www.classic.com/veh/1998-ferrari-355-spider-convertible-zffxr48a8w0112-k4Z0J0W/


4. ZFFXR48A2W0112320 Azurro? / Crema / F1 Spider

https://www.classic.com/veh/1998-ferrari-f355-f1-spider-zffxr48a2w0112320-nXlvqkn/

5. ZFFXR48B000111447 Triple Black F1 Spider
https://www.classic.com/veh/1998-ferrari-f355-f1-convertible-zffxr48b000111447-8pJ36a4/


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This car was offered in 2004 & 2005 in FML as Yellow ...

 

There is alot of info that has yet to be processed for the 355 cars. I just don't have the time. The 355 registry is for sale, if someone wants to take it over and spend the time it needs to be updated.