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  1. Harry-SZ

    Harry-SZ F1 Rookie

    Here are the pictures I promised 2 days ago. It is #29703 if I wrote it down correctly 10 years ago.
    I am not sure about the colour code on this car, because it looks a bit brown/greyish in these pictures. According to the seller it is brown metallic, which was the original colour.

    Not everything was perfectly original on this car (bumpers are painted brown too, c-pillar seam painted etc), but for me this is the one that got away because I love these rare colours on 308 GTB's.

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  2. nerofer

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    Difficult to say, due to the usual problem of colors on camera, plus my own color vision isn't very sharp for some hues of browns and greens (very slight color blindness called "Douglas' daltonism").
    BUT: the car has obviously been repainted, the tell-tale is not only the bumpers but first and foremost the swage line that isn't black anymore.

    Threfore, it COULD (could...) be that it was repainted in Glasurit colors, after the change of paint manufacturers in the spring of 1981, that is in Glasurit's "Marrone Dino FER 309", or even in the later "Marrone FER 303C" instead of the original Glidden Salchi's "Marrone Dino 106-M-73", then Glidden's "663-2-007" found on carbed cars, this for a question of paint availability...

    Rgds

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  3. Harry-SZ

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    Yes the car was repainted of course.
    According to the owner to the original brown metallic.
    The bumpers are not a big issue I think. They can be repainted to black.
    Bigger issue for me was the bottom of the C-pillar that was closed (with filler I presume) and also painted bodycolour. This should of course be a black seam/black caulk (how do you call it in English?)
     
  4. 500tr

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  5. nerofer

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    "Seam" is fine, I think, Harry. And yes, that little thing is often neglected during a repaint. If they have only painted over it, the paint will slowly detach from the ruberry compound, as time goes by; if they have used filler: well, it is lost.

    [Out of my head, I would think that in the King's english, "caulk" has more the sense of either a thermal protection again the wind/cold (= the french "calfeutrer") or a naval affiliation (= the french "calfater": sealing wooden planks with tar) but it should be perfectly understandable as well!]

    As for the color being original, well, I stand to my post on the previous page; very few people actually know about the succession of paint providers; and very few know that under the same name, you might (MIGHT) have some variation in hue, colors, etc...a color called "Marrone Dino" by Glasurit is not necessarly the "Marrone Dino" of Glidden Salchi; the painter might even have used the later "Marrone FER 303C", who knows? Some people would (WOULD) tell you "it is the original color" whereas it is not, it only has the same name (BUT, as said on the preceeding page, it MIGHT actually be the same color! Only a sharp eye looking at both colors side-to-side would be able to tell).

    (You have a similar problem today with the base coat/clear coat paints used, instead of the single-stage paints (= "enamels") no more available, but used by Ferrari until 1992...water-based paints of today vs solvent-based paints of yesterday; not to mention the numerous changes in "Rosso Corsa" shades: for instance, we know that "Rosso Corsa 300/9, originally used only on the 288 GTO, was substitued to 300/6 on the 328s "somewhere during 1987"...but we still don't know at which chassis number it changed...)

    In a nutshell: after a repaint, experience shows that:
    Some people would say "it is the original color", and it is: same name, same reference, same paint provider, same composition, same process, etc...
    Some say "it is the original color" only because the name is the same; actually, they don't know what paint has been used...the painter has only told them so.
    If the painter has glued the new, appropriate sticker, under the hood, we could know. Perhaps he did, perhaps he didn't...

    Rgds
     
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  6. MrGrigio

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    Ahhh of course. My bad.

    I did think it was odd and should've known better you wouldn't have called a 400i a 400E by accident

    W124s are my favourite Mercedes sedan and a V8 W124 is very special.

    I'd love to find a really good condition S124 TE wagon.

    Unfortunately, I don't think they ever imported a 400E into Australia.

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  7. MrGrigio

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    Yes, I had a grigio QV too. I think Marrone is equally as beautiful on 308 as Grigio and on reflection, I think slightly better on a carb car.
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  9. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    Gorgeous
     
  10. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I think the W124 is close the the most perfect daily driver automobile. Ever.
     
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    I was lucky enough to get a ride in a MB 400E in NZ back in ‘93 but might have been a private import.


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  12. miked

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    This video features a GT4 in marrone.



    While I am here I ask the question why does every Ferrari video require that the engine never runs below 5K rpm (often from cold) and leaving every stop sign or light requires bouncing off the redline through every gear? It kind of dismisses the fact that a 308/328 is a great GT car that can be used to travel in relative comfort and style. Just my opinion, then again being in my 70's such behavior has left me long ago.
     
  13. MrGrigio

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    I have to agree - I do think an BMW e39 runs it awfully close though! Almost nothing in it between the two.
     
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  14. MrGrigio

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    Oh my, that is achingly beautiful
     
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  16. MrGrigio

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    Such a fantastic colour on a carb car.
    Well done on choosing such an elegant car/colour combination.
     
  17. JRad

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    I ended up picking up this 85 GTS QV earlier this year and am absolutely in love with the color combo. The paint changes a lot depending on the sunlight. I have access to dealer paint samples from 85 and the color code is Glasurit Marrone Metalizzato 800/C. Any one have any idea on how many they made in this color for 85? I'm told 11 but have not found a way to confirm that info.

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  18. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    Who told you 11?
     
  19. JRad

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    Previous owner and what he was told from the owner before him.

    As I said, this is what I’m told but have no way to confirm that info but would be great to find out.
     
  20. of2worlds

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    Do you have a paint sticker with the paint name identification code in the engine compartment anywhere?
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  21. 500tr

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  22. JRad

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    The paint sticker was missing when I purchased it. Fortunately with the dealer paint sample from 85 and knowing several local experts in Scottsdale, the color and paint of the car is original (small touch ups over the years) and is correct with the 800/c code.

    Your sticker brings up a good question though. I was able to source the same one you show and believe that to be correct for the car but but also found the attached version as well.
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