430 I know... I know... what engine oil again.

Nice. Yea, it's all I use as well in my cars.

 

Has anyone been able to compare the PDS (product data sheet) between the older and newer recommendations?
I'm curious what the changes were.
I'll post on bobistheoilguy.com and see what they say....

 

FS

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My dealer told me that the recommended Pennzoil is not available. Instead they use Liqui Moly Top Tec 4110 5W-40 from Germany.

 

I notice the Shell Ferrari spec oil always has a BMW LL-01 approval. I would believe that would be one additional guide beyond the 5w-40 viscosity specification when selecting something other than the OEM recommendation. One of the specs of LL-01 is a minimum HTHS of 3.5 or greater (high temperature/high sheer). Most LL-01 oils will be between 3.6 and 3.8.

 

I have a 612 and just got her back from a Major service at the dealer (SF Grand Est) in Mulhouse…they are using q8 Excel 5w-40 for oil changes now.

 

I’ve tried quite a few different oils in my Testarossa and now F430.
I found that pennzoil 5-w40, with the horse, foamed a lot in both cars. Especially in the F430 as the previous owner had really overfilled it. Oil laying everywhere in the intake track. That’s another story about differed maintenance.☹️
I use Mobil 1. 0w40 with the FS on the label. Both cars have substantially less mechanical noise at startup and when idling fully up to operating temperature.
To me less noise means less metal to metal contact. The oil also appears clean , clear on the dipstick between annual changes.
I find this to be a good source
https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/motor-oil-wear-test-ranking/
no affiliation , it’s a very long read
Barry

 

I tend to over-research things like fluids.

I landed on HPL Supercar 5w40 for this car. I also used their Differential Life oil for transaxle.

HPL makes some pretty amazing fluids.

Also considered Redline and Amsoil. I've been running Amsoil in my Aston and my latest Blackstone test was about as low of wear metals as reasonably possible. That one runs 10w-60 Euro.

I like the higher HTHS of fluids like HPL, low NOACK, and the benefits of a PAO/Ester base. I especially like the inclusion of Esters for 1. cleanliness and 2. the conditioning of older seals, o-rings, and gaskets. HPL also has a very strong additive package. Cost isn't horrible if you use the Bob is the Oil Guy discount code. Worth it IMO to run a high end oil in these engines. Also using the larger F430 Challenge oil filter.

 

I've followed the threads on BITOG about HPL and have used their engine cleaner oil on some daily drivers. But that is it. My independent uses the factory Pennzoil Platinum Racing 5w-40 oil...and at only 900 to 1000 miles per year with every other year changes...not sure what additional benefits I would see. But have considered it over the past few years, but have left well enough alone.

 

Certainly nothing wrong with the Pennzoil (except, maybe, anecdotal notes that it does thin a bit over OCI's - but your 1k mile change wouldn't matter). Probably one of the best Group III oils you can buy.

 

Never seen much details on the Pennzoil Platinum Racing...it really isn't readily available accept at dealers and online from one particular source.
I've posted these links many times before:
550051259-pds.pdf
Pennzoil platinum racing 550051259 0.25 gal Bottle VISCOSITY:5-40 Engine Oil
Ferrari dealers and my independent get it by the barrel from Shell distributors.

You are confusing it with the more common Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w-40 which is no longer approved. It is not known to thin, but please share details. Heck it had a HTHS of 3.88 to boot in old PDS. No one knows what the HTHS is of Euro or Racing is anymore as Pennzoil/Shell doesn't publish those numbers in their current PDS.

The Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w-40 is still an excellent oil, regardless it is no longer Ferrari approved.
c6a37ba6-a81f-40e1-812d-bd7531e30df8.pdf

 

I can’t imagine the Racing is much different?

Yes referring to PPE. In my car after 3k miles it did thin to just below what a 5w40 should be (Blackstone test). No fuel dilution or any other contaminates.