458 Installing stainless steel brake lines on the 458 tomorrow - advice appreciated for the install

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You just have to plug the line the best you can and get this if you are doing it alone

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I had my mechanic install SS lines on all four corners of the ‘13 spider. He did everything so I can’t help with any details of how to go about it.

One unintended consequence of doing so - it eliminates some of the sponginess in the pedal but causes the ABS to activate more frequently under hard braking (which I discovered at Watkins a few weeks back). You’ll feel it for sure.

As long as you’re prepared for it……..btw I could not discern a reduction in braking power. Just wanted to give you a heads up!

 

While it's unlikely you'll empty the reservoir with a line clamp or plug, just make sure that it doesn't go empty on the reservoir side. A power bleeder will make the job easier on the bleeding side. Make sure to use line wrenches to avoid rounding the nuts on the lines, and be absolutely sure you don't cross thread the lines. Take your time and don't rush, believe me it gets a lot worse if you mess up the threads.

 

If the rear setup is like the 430, you may have to remove the wheel liners to get to the connection for the steel pipe. The 430 front is easy to get to.

 

Well, until last weekend I was running with the full monte turned off - that is ESC OFF.

That setting makes the car as lively as it can be. But…..I got a little aggressive getting back on throttle coming out of Turn 4 at Road Atlanta and spun the car (yikes!). Luckily no consequence, but after I calmed down I saw exactly what I did wrong - and bottom line is these cars can spin if you get even a bit sloppy, 570hp is a plenty of car.

I do notice with ESC OFF the car is a bit quicker when getting back to throttle, and it calms the electronic warnings when the track gets bumpy. So clearly it’s turning more of the cocoon and controls off.

I did not notice any change in ABS kicking in with manettino setting. Straight line braking (hard) will set it off (after the mod). I am curious if you will experience it.

We are deep in uncharted waters here………

And of course, I am a huge Ferrari fan and blessed to wring out a car of this caliper on the track.

 

Interested in your experience with the new lines!

Yes, the car can get jiggly with ESC OFF, it is noticeable compared to CT OFF. I don’t know if you’ve experienced bumpy tracks. (Sebring being one), but the bumps do upset the electronics and set off the sensor alarms, which ESC OFF squelches.

Post some pics of Summit! I plan to be there in the spring, just couldn’t swing another trip up north to make the last Chin event.

 

I am also looking at replacing with steel brake lines. What caused it to take 13 hours?


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