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Seeking opinions about not letting my niece drive one of my Fcars

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  1. spiraljeff

    spiraljeff Rookie

    Aug 20, 2017
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    I'd like your opinions about not letting my niece drive one of my Fcars. So here's the situation: My brother and his family came to visit and they only visit once every 5 years-ish. I let my brother drive my 488 but my wife was upset about it. I told her "it's my brother". What else could I have done? If I didn't let him drive it I'd feel like a total ******. Afterwards, my brother mentioned that it would be really cool if his daughter could drive a Ferrari (either the 488 or the Portofino M) for bragging rights. He said just 4 feet would be enough. She is 15 and has her permit. I took her for a ride in both cars, hit triple digits, and she loved it, but I didn't let her "drive" either car. My brother and family flew back home and now I feel totally awful for not letting my niece drive 4 feet. What would you guys have done? or what would you do now in my situation?
     
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  2. The Red Baron

    The Red Baron Formula 3

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    Let her drive it...........
    If she is willing to accept full liability.
    She's in the drivers seat and someone hits the car, even if parked, will the driver take responsibility.
     
  3. 19633500GT

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    I’d store it in my memory bank and revisit in 2027 when they come back and she’s a licensed 20 year old driver. At that point give her a ft for every year old. 20ft will do :)
     
  4. Tony91505

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    It’s only a car and the probability of her damaging it under supervision seems low. I say go for it!
     
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  5. LARRYH

    LARRYH F1 Veteran
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    You can get a drivers license at 15 in California? Or did she have a learners permit…if learns permit NO i would not in fact it may violate your insurance ..If she has a drivers license maybe if it would mean a lot to her and she is responsible
     
  6. blkfxstc

    blkfxstc Formula Junior
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    You made the right decision, don't worry about it.
     
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  7. GrigioGuy

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    15? Nope.
     
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  8. Mike Morrissey

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    Tough situation. I still think about a time when I was working with a friend on a home project. His wife wanted to borrow my truck to pick up some drywall. I said NO..., felt bad, but NO. The Ferrari isn't a carnival ride.
     
  9. realwhiz

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    I let my both kids 18/19 year old's drive my very first ferrari (488 spider) which I got this last year at the age of 56. Life is short, I think those are moments that will be cherished for a lifetime and for the small amount of risk, I think it's worth it. I could have only wished that my dad had the opportunity to give me that same senerio, I would have felt like a king. I know it's your niece, a bit different but I still think it's a good move and the next time she's out, you give the chance to drive it a block to make up for it. She will remember that for the rest of her life!
     
  10. anunakki

    anunakki Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    I would have let her drive it if you are in a small community with little to no traffic.
     
  11. Scott98

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    4 feet in your driveway? I would have let her do it.
     
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  12. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Six Time F1 World Champ
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    You did the right thing.
     
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  13. jdlegg

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    I let my niece (when she was 16) drive my (previous) 360 in our neighborhood. She did well with the 6-speed and all was great until she floored it and hit ~75mph on a straight stretch w/limited houses! I taught all of my kids to drive stick in my previous 355 & 360 -- mostly on track, too. They're just cars, life's short and the memories will last their lifetime.
     
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  14. rob5819

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    Dec 12, 2017
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    A few years ago one of my wife's good friends came to visit and he and his family were really interested in my 458. I took the husband for a quick 20 minute drive (10 me, 10 him). The same with his wife. They asked if there was any way their 15 year old son (with permit) could drive around our driveway. He and I went on a drive around our neighborhood at a safe 35mph, with his parents in one of our other cars filming the entire thing. Made my day, made his year.

    Later, my 18 year old nephew (with license) was visiting. We took the 458 to Cars and Coffee and a spirited drive, but I was never tempted to offer him the driver's seat and he never asked. You just have to go with how you feel.
     
  15. ginoBBi512

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    This seems like an easy question to answer, NO , NOT EVER, NOT EVER EVER EVER, good grief . And while your at it , tell who ever the **** asks, the same thing.

    Big G
     
  16. Shorn355

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    Find a big parking lot- let her drive it- No traffic- nothing to hit- no liability for her to hit someone and no risk of someone hitting her. Take the Porto- top down- take a video of her driving- She will have a blast showing her friends.

    Beauty of having a car like thar is watching other people take part in the thrill- albeit with managed risk.

    Public road- No way.

    Cheers :cool:
     
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  17. Solid State

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    The vast majority of 15 year olds never even get to sit in a Ferrari and she got a triple digit ride in one. She's already lucky if you think about it so don't sweat it. But maybe I would have let her drive it just because my wife told me no!
     
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  18. JohnnyRay

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    Took my grandson out for his first behind the wheel experience in the DB7. He still talks about it...
     
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  19. plastique999

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    No right answer but…
    I let a kid sit in my Lambo years ago and rev the engine. Well, he pretty much red lined it, and of course, I was pretty shocked by that. You just never know.


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  20. audi_328

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    Does she actually know how to drive? If so, I’d likely have let her move the car a little under power, in a controlled sort of environment, cul-de-sac etc., not out in traffic. Kinda depends on the niece, you know? I would have been over the moon had someone let me do just that little bit at that age.

    I have a 17 y/o nephew who regularly texts asking if he could “borrow a fun car’’ for some event or other with his friends…he’s a good kid, but yeah, no. Same answer every time, but he still tries.
     
  21. RossoCorsa22

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    Personally, I would have let her drive it in a parking lot, for sure. What an experience that would be for her! Not on public roads unless you're somewhere with very little traffic.

    I mean, I let my 18 y/o half sister fly my airplane and she hasn't a clue how to fly, but does a better job of holding an altitude and course than I usually do, even with 10,000+ hours of flight time in my logbook. So you never know ... Your niece might drive your Ferrari better than you
     
  22. 430tdf

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    I just tell EVERYBODY no, insurance won't cover them. Want to borrow my pickup or daily driver fine, but not the Ferraris of my classic cars, to hard to replace.
     
  23. Snapshift

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    My insurance has a stipulated clause regarding that issue and it expressly excludes family members by name who have had accidents before in other cars years ago. It has only two named drivers, myself and my wife. I think they research everything before underwriting the policy. I have however let others drive it with me in the passenger seat under controlled conditions for short drives. FWIW.
     
  24. paulchua

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    It's a hard call since some 15-year-olds I would trust with my life, while others I wouldn't even trust with a pair of scissors. Whatever your choice, make sure it's 100% covered by insurance.
     
  25. VAF84

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    I would have let her. I let the 15 year old son of some good friends of ours drive my F430 around the block of their neighborhood with me in the passenger seat. Wide streets, little to no traffic. He had his learners permit. We just cruised around the block at 0-30mph, let him shift to second gear in the F1. He absolutely loved it, and I wasn't too concerned.

    I was actually using it as a way to prepare him to learn to drive a manual. Their parents got him a manual 3-series, and it was up to me and our friend to teach him. The F1 was a nice segway into it.

    Ultimately it depends on the person you're going to let drive. I hesitate way more with my sister who's a year younger than me, because she has a history of getting her cars wrecked.
     
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