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LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Ale55andr0, Dec 24, 2019.

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  1. kandi

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    #1076 kandi, Oct 8, 2022
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    Of course they will be all sold out. I also believe in Ferrari technological prowess , but a V6 would be quite a disappointment for the last Ferrari "halo" car.
     
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  2. REALZEUS

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    Why is that? Is the AMG One a disappointment because of the V6?
     
  3. kandi

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    Don't even want to touch "AMG One" can of worms - it's a side topic, but "you know"... when even the Ferrari SUV(FUV) gets a V12 and the hypercar gets a twin turbo V6 - that would be something to scratch my head.

    Maybe LaFerrari is the last real "heart and soul" of Ferraris.
     
  4. Johnny_Bravo

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    Yes.
    The V6 sucks and it's not a proper engine for supercars, nevermind hypercars.
     
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  5. REALZEUS

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    Isn't a genuine F1 engine proper for a hypercar? Don't get me wrong, there is nothing better than a N/A V12, but let us not be so dismissive of other configurations.
     
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  6. kandi

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    If Ferrari comes with a V6 TT engine for the "halo" car, they will of course have their justification for it - A lot of bla.. bla.. bla.. about innovation, F1 heritage, engagement in LMH program, slideshows, graphs with no proper scale, etc)

    But yea , marketing talk is one thing, and whether you feel really satisfied with that car (not the brand talk or brand value) - is another and most important thing.
    The LMH car reveal might use as a hint what to expect, but still it's only a guess.
     
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  7. FF4X4

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    It should have a NA V12 (from the Purosangue), not hybrid, manual option. To hell with how much horse power.
     
  8. REALZEUS

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    The engine in the Purosangue is in the lowest state of tune, so no. A manual is also a no. Finally, the halo Ferrari should care about power and performance, as they always do.
     
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  9. FF4X4

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    You are right. Here is a starting point for power and performance: Pininfarina Battista
     
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  10. REALZEUS

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    No need to lose the ICE, yet.
     
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  11. day355

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    Do you want a moisturizing lotion ?:D
     
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  12. FF4X4

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    OK. It is time to define what you mean by 'Power and Performance' for a Ferrari Halo car.
     
  13. kandi

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    Funny :D My last "hope" was a V8 :cool:
     
  14. Johnny_Bravo

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    If Ferrari would have cared that much about performance, they'd have put a wing on the LaFerrari in order to make sure it didn't get beat by that ugly P1 on a track.
     
  15. Ale55andr0

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    good for him
     
  16. Ale55andr0

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    #1091 Ale55andr0, Oct 8, 2022
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    barely, and with less torque. Ferrero can pull out 900hp from that engine if they want (mclaren have 860-880hp in 765LT), with WAY higher torque. Plus who have said that I was talking about "just" of a 4.0 v8 turbo? and what about a 6.0 v12 turbo? :p (...) same displacement vs same displacement there is simply no match, period. Turbo will kick asses.:cool:
     
  17. jpalmito

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    Guess the LMH will have a new V6tt with some Formula One specifications.
    Logically this engine would equipped the Laferrari replacement?
     
  18. REALZEUS

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    Go eat a chocolate mate, you need the sugar.
     
  19. jpalmito

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    Wonder if initial plan for Laferrari replacement was a V12 hybrid and then they changed their mind with the LMH program and instead decided for a full hybrid V6TT supercar?
     
  20. kandi

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    #1095 kandi, Oct 9, 2022
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    The last V12 on Ferrari hypercar was probably endorsed with naming the LaFerrari "The Ferrari". LdM knew what it really means.

    By a fraction of a second (Portimao, I think?) which does not mean much for me or other Ferrari customers.

    And IIRC the race mode on P1, with lowered suspension (not legal on street) helps Mclaren too. Portimao is a track with high elevation changes with ondulations - which is in favour of cars with AWD traction, like Porsche 918, and with less roll (like P1 in race mode).
     
  21. Senad

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    no v12 turbo.
    Car Is related to LMH, but not just street legal version of it.
     
  22. jpalmito

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    V6TT ?
     
  23. REALZEUS

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    I missed that one. Lap times are mostly about the tyres. The LaFerrari was on P Zero Corsas, whereas the P1 on the much stickier Trofeo Rs. Still, they posted dimilar lap times, even though the McLaren was on much quicker tyres.
     
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  24. kandi

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    #1099 kandi, Oct 9, 2022
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    Just to recall , in that hypercar trio "contest" at Portimao circuit, conducted by Chris Harris - LaFerrari and McLaren P1 both got "off the shelf" (non bespoke) Pirelli P Zero Corsa tyres.

    So the result is more about what I said about McLaren P1 running in race mode (lowered suspension by 50mm and high wing for improved downforce) etc.
    BTW, all-wheel-drive Porsche 918 run the lap on Michelin PSCup2 tyres (if they are bespoke 918's internal tyre model for Porsche, don't know)
     
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  25. REALZEUS

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    That was just one test. On most tests the P1 was on the Trofeos.
     

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