Maserati MC20

I realize you have to pay to play. I had hoped to spec a perfect car from the get go that we could keep long term. But the difference between a base staring price in 22 was quite different than the 23. I realize Maserati is including some of the 22 options in this markup but those items weren’t something I needed or would have ordered anyway. So in my case it’s just a price hike. Not sure why they claim it’s available in 5 or 6 standard colors when only one or two of the colors are included in that base price. Lol

any way. I can’t really knock the car. I get they are out to make money but this seems a bit of a grab for even some basic items. Like Porsche practice on steroids. Even Ferrari offers quite a number of paint colors without a markup. they get their dollars on other options.

I get the sense that the party for all car model dealers is ending. I think there will be a dramatic pullback on orders (and think it has already happened) of the mc20 and other marked up cars very quickly. I get that sense for how short the list is at multiple dealers and other dealers did not meet their max quota for 22 or 23. So we’ll see where it goes. I’ll keep working toward the next step.

Robb

 

Were the three vehicles all customer cars or were they cars that are still looking for a buyer?

Anyway, be happy about your decision. The MC20 is certainly a nice car, but just way too expensive. Or in other words, for the money of a MC20, there are much more exciting and thrilling cars. I think too many MC20 buyers fervently hope that the miracle of the MC12 will be repeated. But no, that will not happen. The MC20 will crash in price. This car is just way too average. But that's just my opinion.

 

The red car was being picked up by a buyer after ordering about 9 months prior. It had the laser cut cuoio interior.
The yellow car had some miles and was pre-owned with yellow contrast stitching and no carbon exterior.
The matte white was new and I think available directly from the dealer with a markup above msrp. It had the plain leather seats in dark blue / black.

All nice cars. I didn’t ask about their prices because I had hoped to get one spec’d at msrp. But even msrp costs proved a bridge too far for me.

most of the cars on cargurus are pretty close to msrp. The two that recently sold on BAT went close to msrp also. So that is hopeful for the future.

as far as competitors:

the McLaren 570 and 650 are in that 160 to 190k range. Nice modern design to me with unique colors and options. But it has a smaller interior that doesn’t fit me very well. The Gallardo from 2009-2014 is around 130-180k. I like the looks of the superleggera but the Gallardo and more expensive huracans also are tight inside. I’m not sure the Gallardo design will age well or that will give you that gotta see it agian as you walk away after parking it.

911 doesn’t really do much for me. Great car, but not unique enough to me. Plus I can’t stand those dealer’s not taking orders for gt3 touring… my wife is not a Porsche fan anyway.
Audi R8 seems way overpriced for their earlier cars from the initial v8 and v10 cars and they are also not very unique to me. I think new those were over 200k… huh.

murcielago is not really known to me but has similar cool factor.

only other cars I see as similar to the mc20 is the McLaren 720 and 458/ 488 or a scud or CS for older models but I think those are all still quite a bit high and not back down to pre-Covid “sane” prices which would be great. Also an f12 or 599 with the front engines in play with similar prices. Out of all of those, I’d be looking toward the Ferraris if mc20 fails to depreciate in a normal curve…

did I miss any?

Robb

 

as of Maseratis strange politics reg. colors, I can`t agree more. Maserati offered 5"basic" colors while Ferrari offered for the 296GTB...24!!!!

 

no, you missed now all of them! I strongly advise to buy a Lada! Its cool, production-no.`s are very low now and nobody in your neighbourhood has it! And its REALLY cheap....

 

For new cars, perhaps the Ferrari Roma and the Portofino are still missing or, if it should be a rear mid-engine car, the McLaren GT or the new McLaren Artura, a very interesting and attractive looking car. Then there is the new Granturismo coming...

 

Those are all very different cars and my sense is that the MC20 is meant primarily as mid engine GT car that's far more civilized than those.

Look at these Novitec versions of two Ferraris





Then watch what Aston Martin is like on the same test circuit.



To me I think I'd prefer the AM as it comes off as much more refined, GT like. I think MC20 has a similar purpose.
Whether it holds it's value I no idea and no it's no at all similar to the MC12 which was meant as a halo car that Maserati took very successfully into racing.
But a MC12 is not a good GT car and they didn't make very many of them. It damages very easily on public roads too.

The MC20 is meant to be much more of a volume production car. I'm as yet not impressed with it's interior though at least it isn't so GD busy like the Ferraris are now.
If I were in the market for something like this I think I'd wait until it had a better interior, hope that happens.

 

Of course, they are different. But if Robb is also considering an F12 or a 599, that tells me he's not explicitly looking for a rear mid-engine car. And yes, I consider an AM to be a great car as well, certainly an alternative.

 

I was kind of shocked by the Roma in those videos. To me it's much more raw than this MC20. If that's what one is looking for fine but I don't think you disqualify the MC20 based upon the fact that's more civilized as there numerous reviews from qualified people who think that it drives fabulously and yet is quite fast ... but it can also be a very good GT car.

 

Guys... shoot me if you want but its the Corvette C8 Z06 all day long

Starting at 115K
0-60 in verified 2.3 sec
N/A flat plane crank twin cam with 670 HP and 8600 red line
Convertible version for only $7K more
Available with CCB's, CF wheels, Cup2 tires, and track aero package
Most expensive paint is $1000 more than base
Every imaginable electronic feature standard including mag shocks and Apple Carplay

Hard to beat.

 

double, sorry.

 

I had the opportunity to drive the MC20 extensively, I was thinking of buying one. Yes, it is a really good car, it actually has no weaknesses, but unfortunately also no real strengths! And that was just too little for me in this price range. It's a nice Maserati, a little heavy but still sporty and agil to drive, bottom line a great GT. But then again a GT in which it is already difficult to stow a sports bag. Have then just decided for something else.

I was also allowed to drive the Roma, and I must say that it has a lot of power under its long hood, the rear axle was always concerned not to lose grip. For me, currently one of the best GT's. And I'm still annoyed that the successor to the Granturismo doesn't look like the Roma. But that is really a matter of personal taste.

 

Someone who's shopping for one these cars isn't going to look at a Corvette but I think you know that.

 

I looked at both.

 

I'm trying to get both. . . C8Z has presence and sound. MC20 is pretty.

 

I think the mc20 ticked all my boxes for a car my wife and I can both drive and go on some road trips together also. So I’ll see where prices go.

I think ownership experience (or exclusivity / uniqueness) plays into this as well for me. So the corvette and z06 are on or will be on every corner (kind of like Porsches). I also was pretty unimpressed with the corvette factory line that I toured pre-covid. It seemed really low brow wife beaters, slamming elbows on doors and more. I enjoyed seeing it but it’s not a car or experience I consider.

I’ve owned a challenge car and I am no Schumacher so anything faster than my 355’s is fine. I’m not looking for a lap burner but a fun, comfortable experience with multiple suspension modes that you don’t see too often. And it has to be beautiful… All the cars on the list tick most of the boxes. I am hoping to add a newish modern car that does not require as much maint but still gives you multiple experiences. I’ve done lots of smaller older cars so this next one is going to be a bit different. I really love the 2014 granturismo sport we added so it likely takes care of the front engine typical gt category. I’d prefer a mid engine car but would still consider the 599 and f12 because of the other factors discussed. I’ve owned a 2009 Aston vantage which I really liked but my wife didn’t really enjoy the harder suspension it had with the sport pack. I’m not into the new styling of db11, new vantage…

So I’ll see what the next 6-12 months brings with prices and try to find an mc20 first within my budget, but the others on the list are good backup choices if the mc20 never comes down.

Robb

 

I drove the Roma earlier this year and I was not so impressed. As of Ferrari standards, the car was a bit boring...

 

I just watched the Harry's garage episode where takes one around Cornwall for a few days including rain. It is nice to look at. He wasn't jumping for joy about it either but then both you and he are rather jaded. I wouldn't kick it out of my garage. Got 20 mpg on the trip. Ferrari sure makes a lot of models now.

 

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Too flashy for my taste.
Ivan

 

Yuck!

 

Yeah, I would not be happy to own that one.

Robb

 

Coming to a Rap video near you.

 

I wonder if this was a factory execute spec?

 

Probably a footballer....

 

Yep, or baseball or basketball. Atlanta is very much a sports town. If you think this MC20 is ugly you should have seen what was done to the Rolls and Maybachs being displayed. Some people cannot seem to leave good enough alone.

The yellow MC20 photo was taken yesterday at the Festival of Speed which had one of the highest concentration of high end modern cars I've ever seen.

Ivan