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599 Clock Loses Time - How???

Discussion in '612/599' started by Skidkid, Nov 18, 2022.

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  1. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    I am trying to understand how this is even possible. Would love to hear your hypothesis.

    The clock in my 599 loses at least 1 min per month, actually a bit more. I have to constantly reset the time to have it anywhere near correct. That is very odd!
    • It is a digital clock so it shouldn't lose time. Oscillators only work at one frequency.
    • The batter is new. Even then, unless it was to low to power the circuit at all an oscillator will work.
    • I drive it often, at least every day or two.
    • Parked in garage so no huge temp swings; I live in CA as well so weather is temperate.
    Thoughts? I am not worried about this but I am a bit puzzled.
     
  2. fatbillybob

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    Because time slows down when you're driving your Ferrari
     
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  3. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Clock is just not set to exactly match the vibration frequency of the quartz crystal. My 575M is about the same. Lowest bidder.
     
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  4. Chindit

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    My 612 is the same way. I must set the clock every few weeks or the the time will be noticeably off.
     
  5. Skidkid

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    I didn't check but I would have guessed it uses the average cheap clock chip. BUT, the way it behaves it is as if they made an oscillator (not crystal based but RC) and went from there.
     
  6. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Both my 550's too! Ferrari is king of the low bidder. Some would say this year they hired the cheap strategists on the F1 pitwall as well.
     
  7. doodja

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    For what it's worth....I have a 599, but also happen to have a 2017 Ram van and it does the same thing. Doesn't make sense to me either. Being digital and all. Haven't paid attention to the 599's clock, but probably the same story.
     
  8. sabre66

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    50hz vs 60hz would cause this......it was built with EU chip by accident.;)
     
  9. Skidkid

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    Yea, but it is 12V DC
     
  10. sabre66

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    You make a valid point buuuuut in my line of work mostly low voltage (12-24vdc) i have to select which power source I'm using ie. 50 or 60 hz. One of my techs accidentally chose 50hz and the clock was always getting thrown off, messed up my automation's on a monthly basis. So I think it still holds water my assumption.
     
  11. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Most of the new ones, like my wife's Mercedes, are slaved to the GPS and autocorrect.
     
  12. Solid State

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    Cannot understand how a battery powered clock has any dependency on AC power frequency. Cheap electronics can drift though.
     
  13. mike051

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    I am in EU (France) and my clock is loosing time too. Inside the car, everything is using 12V DC. This is not a question of a US supply or a EU supply via the CTek.
    I also think frequency of the quartz is not as accurate as it should.
     
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  14. Skidkid

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    Sure, but you are thinking of it being plugged into a wall. There is no 50/60 Hz in auto electronics. Sorry, but you are in my wheelhouse here. I am an EE even if I have been in sales for a long time.
     
  15. sabre66

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    You are correct about being plugged into the wall part........but maybe being plugged into a tender is causing this issue.....LOL. My 2 cars ( non fcars) not plugged in never seem to have clock skew issues....Just saying......:D;)...WOW i think I derailed this one sufficiently
     
  16. ryalex

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    2015 F12 clock loses time too. I don’t understand how, either. Especially since it has satellite radio and could sync on its own.
     
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