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  1. 635CSI

    635CSI F1 Rookie

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    If you read all of the original post, I said it was a dream, from which I awoke to this less attractive
     
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  2. Temerian

    Temerian Formula Junior
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    I don’t know if it means anything but the post race testing went well for Ferrari. Happy Thanksgiving for all who celebrate it!
     
  3. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yep, more Pirelli testing(5 more) to come before March.
     
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  4. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/jeddah-reveals-f1-track-tweaks-ahead-of-2023-race/10405561/

    Jeddah reveals F1 track tweaks ahead of 2023 Saudi Arabian GP
    The promoters of the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix have revealed further tweaks to the Jeddah Formula 1 track layout for next year’s race to improve safety and visibility.

    By: Luke Smith
    Nov 28, 2022, 10:03 AM
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    The Jeddah Corniche Circuit hosted its first F1 race in 2021, becoming the fastest street circuit on the calendar but drawing criticism from some drivers due to the tight layout and poor visibility in blind corners.

    Ahead of its second race in March 2022, Jeddah made a series of tweaks to the track to improve sightlines and make it safer for the drivers, as well as widening the circuit in places.

    But the organisers of the grand prix have now revealed that a series of further changes will be made ahead of the next race on 19 March next year.

    One of the biggest changes is at high-speed left-right sequence at Turns 22 and 23, where efforts have been made to reduce speeds by around 50km/h by adjusting the fence placement and adding a bevelled kerb.

    Changes have also been made at Turns 14 and 20, two of the quickest blind corners on the circuit, where the fences have been pushed back to open up the corner more and provide better sightlines to the drivers.

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    Jeddah Track Turn 14-01

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    At Turn 14, the wall on the right-hand side of the track has been pushed back by 7.5 metres, while the left-hand wall at Turn 20 has moved back by five metres. The walls have also been pushed back at Turns 8 and 10 in order to improve visibility.

    Bevelled kerbs have also been added at Turns 4, 8, 10, 11, 17 and 23, while new ‘rumble lines’ have been placed at Turns 3, 14, 19, 20 and 21 to deter drivers from running wide and slow them down.

    “The evolution of the Jeddah Corniche Circuit continues apace and we are excited to add these further tweaks to our magnificent track as a result of positive consultation with the FIA, F1 and the drivers,” said Martin Whitaker, chief executive of the Saudi Motorsport Company.

    “The previous two races here in Jeddah have already confirmed the JCC as the world’s fastest and most exciting street circuit and these new developments will only add to the spectacle that fans can expect to see next March when F1 returns to our city.

    “It is vital for any circuit to listen and learn from those racing on it and use their feedback to grow and improve at all times.

    “We are confident these changes will lead to even faster, more exciting and - crucially - safe racing and we can’t wait to see the world’s greatest drivers battle it out here under the lights again in 2023.”

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    Jeddah Track Layout

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  5. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    F1 confirms cancellation of 2023 Chinese Grand Prix
    Formula 1 has confirmed the Chinese Grand Prix will not go ahead next year due to ongoing Covid-19 restrictions, but is looking at options for a replacement race.
     
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  6. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Hopefully Portimao or Sapang takes its place.
     
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  7. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Good news !!
     
  8. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Let's go for Portimao to make Furoni happy !! ;)
     
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  9. TopspeedPT

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  10. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    sepang pretty please
     
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  11. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Tasmania should host the first Antipodean GP :p

    So long as they don't charge per head :p

    (Tasmanians are often referred to as having two heads due to in-breeding :p )
     
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  12. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    :eek::p:p:p:p:p
     
  13. ingegnere

    ingegnere F1 Veteran
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  14. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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  15. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Ricci was not on it lol. Steiner the optimist lol. It’s not a great car and adapting is not certain!


    Steiner: F1 reserve drives show Hulkenberg "will be straight on it"
    Haas boss Gunther Steiner thinks Nico Hulkenberg's cameos over the past three seasons show that he "will be straight on it" when he joins the Formula 1 team next season.
     
  16. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    F1 reveals six sprint races for 2023 including Spa and Baku
    Formula 1 has announced the locations for its six sprint races in 2023 as Baku and Spa join the expanded roster for next year.
     
  17. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Wow !! 24 GPs + 6 sprints.

    There will be a lot of racing going in in 2023 !!! :p
     
  18. furoni

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    Charles will trash everyone...there i said it!
     
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  19. LVP488

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    That's not 2023, but 2024 or 2025 when in joins the right team :p
    (just joking of course, all of us here believe in Ferrari)
     
  20. Giallo 550

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    Watch the 2023 Ferrari motor grenade every race weekend after that comment. :rolleyes:
     
  21. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    With so few things allowed to be changed I really struggle to understand how any team can have a significant engine advantage.

    All 4 of them are close to each other performance wise, within a few HP. When Ferrari earlier this year had a bit more power, the engines kept blowing up. I think we can safely assume that it's the same for RB and Mercedes that pushing it any further brings them into unreliability territory (especially with Mercedes who could use every ounce of extra performance this year). Alpine/Renault even is close but unreliable.

    I'd like to be optimistic but I just don't see anyone having significant engine power advantage and the reliability needed with it, especially with upgrades almost completely restricted.
     
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  22. johnireland

    johnireland F1 Veteran
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    I smell the season slipping away before it's even begun. Ferrari comes in 4th. Barely.
     
  23. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    Respectfully disagree Bas,
    Really hope Ferrari taking risks with the engine architecture will paying off in the coming years..
     
  24. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    We'll see.

    I just don't see how any team can find a significant power advantage over the rest with engines that have been almost completely unchanged in 9 years. Laws of deminishing returns have to kick in at some point.
     
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  25. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    While you cannot change the specification (drawings) of a part, you can change the machining of a part.
    It is just that the new part has to be backwards compatible with the existing part.

    So, say there are ring lands on the piston and these have proven to be "problematic".
    You can change the way these are machined (from cutting on a lathe to grinding on a lathe) and the parts are still to the spec but may be stronger,...
     
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