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  1. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    Guys,
    I guess it’s time to open a new thread for our beloved Scuderia in 2023.
    Next year is our year..;)
    More seriously Binotto told Steiner this week that the Ferrari engine next year will be a bomb !
    Hope he was talking about the performance not about an Austrian Gp lookalike.:D
     
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  2. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Or what they call it when a movie fails...
     
  3. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    Slight OT
    Patrick Tambay has passed away.
    RIP Patrick, you was a true gentleman.
     
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  4. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Well said. A gent.
     
  5. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Very sad to fear that.
    I met Patrick Tambay at the Winfief-Elf School in 1973; we were roughly of the same age.
    He was the previous year laureate, and came to coach us some weekends in support of Simon De Lautour, our instructor. .
    I remember him as a pleasant individual, patient, confident but approachable, a true gentleman
    I don't think his career reflects his talent: he was at McLaren and Renault at the wrong time.
    I still remember the emotional German GP, he won substituting for his great friend Gilles Villeneuve.
    God speed Patrick ...
     
  6. Cicio

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    As much as I would love to see Ferrari get organized as a team and do amazing next year I would by lying to myself to believe it was really gonna happen.

    I think the issues in the organization of the team go way deeper than Binotto. I don't feel there is good leadership promoting a team environment inside that team. I feel there are still remittance of how it was run under the old man which was simply more of a dictatorship than team. While that worked to somehow create a cult following that still lives today, it isn't modern days road to success in sport. This is why I personally think we see the blunders that we see most weekends.

    I think Mercedes learned more this year than any other team on the grid. I really don't like the AMG team and do not want to see them winning races again personally but I feel for 23 it is inevitable. They will be a driving force with Horner and the RB team either slightly edging them out or playing a very closely heard second fiddle. Ferrari in my opinion will be a distant 3rd at best. That is if Mclaren doesn't give Piastri and Lando a 5% better car, because if they do then they are coming for us.

    Just my thoughts.
     
  7. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You are right there !
     
  8. Sempre_gilles

    Sempre_gilles Formula 3

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    Moderators, please create a separate thread to commemorate Patrick Tambay....
     
  9. schumacherf2006

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    Who’s ready for a bunch of hype and to ultimately be disappointed again!!??
     
  10. LVP488

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    I think sensible people (including myself, of course ;)) do not have high expectations for next year.

    Upper management should have told Binotto to acknowledge and work to correct the issues in due time - letting him in denial for the whole season and firing him at the end is the recipe for going back to the start, not a way to achieve short term success.

    Best case is the next TP will have some years to rebuild a team and will eventually succeed - I cannot see it happen next year (although with exceptional luck, everything is possible); just hope we'll be able to see the Scuderia win again before F1 finally collapsing.
     
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  11. jcurry

    jcurry Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Count me as non-sensible, or eternally optimistic (probably the same thing when it comes to Scuderia Ferrari). I'll treat every race weekend the same, rooting for Ferrari (and Charles) to win.
     
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  12. 635CSI

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    Dear Ferrari,
    Any news you would like to share with me?
    It’s just seems that we don’t have a TP or a TD in place.
    This may not worry you, but it is really starting to worry me.
    Next year is only weeks away.
    Please don’t drag this out forever.
    Of course I will always love you, but maybe you could think of me for once and sort your **** out?
    Forever yours.
    Graham
     
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  13. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Dear Graham,

    There is no need for the tifosi to panic.
    Everything is under control for us to meet out target in 2026.

    Yours

    John Elkann
     
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  14. jpalmito

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    We may have a very contradictory situation next year.
    A very competitive car and no real technical team direction to develop it through the year.
     
  15. sp1der

    sp1der F1 Rookie

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    Pretty much like 22 then?
     
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  16. jpalmito

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    Worse
    A competitive and reliable car together with absolutely no team leadership.
     
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  17. ingegnere

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    So we’ve seen names mentioned to replace Binotto from the boring (Vasseur) to the the ridiculous—from the immovable C. Horner to Monisha Kaltenborn (!!)—but probably two of the most eligible that no one has mentioned could be Massimo Rivola (ex-Ferrari) who has helped bring Aprilia back to the front of MotoGP and another MoyoGP alumnus—he brought a championship to Suzuki—with a couple of years of F1 experience at Alpine, Davide Brivio.
     
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  18. DeSoto

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    Some say Andrea Adamo, ex Hyundai WRC.
     
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  19. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    By the time the new team principal, and the rest of the staff glue together, it will be 2024 already ! ;)

    With what's going on, many are reluctant to take the job, I guess.
     
  20. jpalmito

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    The in- house solution is by far the best one with this context.
    No need to add instability from outside.
     
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  21. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Glad I missed that Kaltenborn rumour. Imagine her in charge of Ferrari. Doesn't even understand that you can't sign more than 2 active drivers.
     
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  22. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    It has been done before: Michael Andretti, Mika Hakkinen and Ayrton Senna at McLaren !
     
  23. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    On the other side Alesi signed two contracts with Ferrari and Williams in 1990 !:D
     
  24. Sempre_gilles

    Sempre_gilles Formula 3

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    Which lists exactly two active drivers ;););)

    The third driver didn't have a clue what he was doing in F1....
     
  25. Nembo1777

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    I saw Gerhard Berger mentioned too.... I would like that.
     

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