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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    No, but Lawrence aided in helping to design the cars.
     
  2. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Well known he sits in on many meetings. To the annoyance of some. This is a PERSONAL family project.
     
  3. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Does Lawrence Stroll has actually a technical background to discuss with engineers something as elaborate as F1 design?

    I repeat, that's exagerated, IMO. He may be in meetings to motivate people, to check the work done, etc...

    But I doubt if he has any input in the actual design, or ever calculated the stress load of some parts, etc ...
     
  4. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Lawrence Stroll to team: " Hey guys, here some drawings from my personal friend. Do what you must."

    Team: " Thank-you Lawrence."
     
  5. tbakowsky

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    Having spent an afternoon behind the wheel of a Nissmo GTR..I will disagree that it is underrated. In fact it is extremely OVERRATED. Fast in a straight line..sure. but unfortunately it is a massive piece of poo as an actual performance car. I can understand why it has only 93 miles on it. Thats enough not to ever want to drive it again.
     
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  6. Terra

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    Oh, how wrong you are!

    With a bit of engine work (to bring it up to circa-750bhp), and chassis mods the thing spanks the vast majority of high performance road cars on the track. And that’s despite its porky weight.
     
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    With a little work..sure. but out of the showroom bone stock..disappointing to say the least. Or maybe I'm just spoiled.
     
  8. william

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    On track days, I saw tuned GT-Rs humiliating Ferraris, Porsches and Lamborghinis.
    GT-R specialist Litchfield in England can get up to 1000hp for track use.
    A bog standard GT-R is already an excellent everyday car too, practical, and reliable compared to exotics twice the price.
    A friend of mine, who owns a Ferrari 360, has a GT-R for the last 6 years; he travels across Europe regularly without any worry.
     
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  9. Bas

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    Friend of mine had a Litchfield one, 700bhp, white, TE37s, proper suspenion done etc...stunningly fast, rock solid in the corners.

    Left me stone cold inside. No matter how hard I try I just can't get myself to like them. After a few years he sold it and went back to another R34 GTR before prices went mental.

    The R35 don't take a lot to become stupid fast, like most things these days I guess. I think it was because of how effortless it did everything that it takes some of the magic away. I'd much prefer an R32/3/4.
     
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  10. ktu

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    GTR is a legend . Obviuosly the old design is not up to par with current supercars. But when it first came out it distroyed most competion. I always said the 2nd gen NSx is a mid engined GTR, heavy, all wheel drive, a lot of electronics. Both legends. I wish Toyota would have brought back the supra properly. I won't get started on that.
     
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    My favorite is a R34 Skyline Z-tune. Take it back to the Omori factory for better upgrades and certification. I know it would cost me north of $400k just to get the car...if I can find one and had the cash.

    That RB26DETT engine is reliable and yes, can handle 1000hp mods.
     
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  12. Bas

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    You can triple that figure these days...

    That said Nismo does have the R tune programme which is very close...Basically Z tune minus the special badging and a few minor bits.

    Personally I'd love one with a Mines engine + diffs, Z tune aero and in bayside blue.

    The noise the Mines makes is insane and so quick through the gears with that shorter gearing:
    MINE'S R34 Skyline GT R RB Japanese Muscle Hot Version International - YouTube



    May be straving off topic here slightly but Former minardi F1 driver Nicolas Kiesa actually had an R34 GTR as well, and fully build it himself...here's a short little run of him doing a 0-280 run and 10K RPM!

    Skyline R34 GT-R revs 10.000 rpm - YouTube

    He had it for years, he used to post on the GTR forum as well, then sold it and build a twin turbo gallardo before buying the GTR back.

    kismo.dk for some nice reading if you want.
     
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  13. Mitch Alsup

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    I am not an M.D. but I know when a doctor is pulling my leg.
     
  14. spirot

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    While I dont really like Mr. Stroll - just a personal thing, Enzo Ferrari had no technical skills either, yet he dictated what his cars would be like - and test drove them ( early on ) I know that is a bit of a stretch, but if I'll give him credit if he's taking an interest and letting his own personality impact the cars... I like cars that have one Mans ethos behind them... Ferrari, Porsche, Chapman, Rolls- Royce etc...
     
  15. william

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    Yes, and he had very conservative ideas too that hampered progress both on his cars and at the Scuderia.

    Ferrari didn't believe in the benefit of disc brakes: Hawthorn had Jaguar disc brakes fitted in secret on his car.
    Ferrari was against rear engines, even after being defeated for several years by Cooper
    Ferrari didn't like space frame chassis: "too flimsy" according to him
    Ferrari didn't see the interest of independent rear suspension on road cars
    Ferrari was among the last to adopt monocoque chassis; the first one was made in UK.
    Ferrari thought "aerodynamics is for those who don't how to build powerfull engines"
    etc ... etc ...
    I think it's Paul Frère who wrote "Enzo Ferrari wasn't an engineer, but a salesman".
     
  16. Mitch Alsup

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    All true, and it is a wonder that the road car division survived............
     
  17. william

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    Up to the late 60s, Ferrari was a workshop producing bespoke luxury cars designed by Pininfarina, Bertone, Ghia or Zagato,
    It was exoticism mixed with "haute couture", but the company was living hand to mouth and barely surviving.
    Ferrari received help from fellow industrialists in the region and generous benefactors, until the Agnelli stepped in.
    The negotiations with Ford were really a smokescreen to decide FIAT to come onboard and take away the financial worries.
    Enzo Ferrari was very astute in selling his car company to concentrate on his main interest, the Scuderia.
     
  18. furoni

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    You should try my 20 years old c station diesel, with 116 horsepower but with a faulty engine that sometimes i guess will only deliver half of that! Now that is a ****ing rocketship! You should see me trash old age pedestrians on it!
     
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    Especially downhill I bet it's a different beast!

    Factually speaking the fastest car I drove was a 1990s renault clio diesel (non turbo) I drove back for a friend of mine....it wasn't neccessarily fast but sure seemed it when the brakes completely failed and I had a lot of slowing down to do in not a lot of space...:eek::p:p:p
     
  20. DF1

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    Yes but will FA be patient enough or be ridden out of the team by Strolly LOL--

    Aston Martin: 2025 F1 car will be first to benefit from new windtunnel
    Aston Martin Formula 1 technical director Dan Fallows says that the team’s new windtunnel will be ready in time to contribute to the 2025 car.
     
  21. william

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    [QUOTE="DF1, post: 148900989, member: 47651
    Aston Martin: 2025 F1 car will be first to benefit from new windtunnel
    Aston Martin Formula 1 technical director Dan Fallows says that the team’s new windtunnel will be ready in time to contribute to the 2025 car.[/QUOTE]

    Anyone knows why it takes so long to built a wind tunnel?
     
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    I think he was actually thinking of the Ford sale... I'm not sure it was a smoke screen. only once he felt he was being cheated in the deal, did he decide to use it to leverage the rest of the Italian industrialists... in Franco Gozzi's book he talks about how Enzo loved the idea of selling out to the Ford's - and still being able to do his own thing with racing, "it will be like the 30's again except no Ricart money".... is what he supposedly said.
     
  24. william

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    I am puzzled by that. Do you mean Wilfrido Ricart, the Spanish engineer, Ferrari's nemesis at Alfa Romeo ?
     
  25. spirot

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    yes - I think he kept development $$ and Ferrari at bay.
     

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