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Heat Wave puts EV owners in a dilemma--when they gonna charge their cars?

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  1. bitzman

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    Rolling Blackouts and Voluntary Electric Use Cutbacks

    Somehow the electric car future got a little dimmer when California homeowners were told during a heat wave to voluntarily cut back on electricity use in their home between 4 pm and 9 pm.
    The alternative, if too many homes use electricity in those hours is an involuntary blackout--a complete cut off of electricity.
    The governor of the State urged the public to comply voluntarily, but didn't address how this squares with re-charging electric cars. Some cars take over twelve hours to charge , especially if you don't have the more robust 220-volt home changing systems.
    When the visionaries who want the whole State to go electric supported the Governor's plan for all new cars to be electric they didn't anticipate the recent shifts in climate change that will make heat waves more common, heat waves that would overload the electric supply line and make it impossible for all electric car owners to recharge their cas. And this is when electric cars are only less than 4% of the total. What if they get to be over 50% of all licensed vehicles?
    Plus cost of the materials needed to make electric car batteries are skyrocketing which means under-$30,000 EV cars might be hard to make, The average price of EVs now in Calif. is over $60K. since in most neighborhoods you can't find a home for under $400,000, that's a high expense to add to the family budget.
    The governor has plenty of plans for the state's $97.5 billion budget surplus but none of them seem to address getting more water into the state to power hydroelectric plants .Lake Mead, is in Nevada but it is too low on water to power the turbines. And there's no talk of reactivating atomic energy plants to produce more electricity.
    While hydrogen cars are rarely mentioned now somehow the cost of materials seems brighter over there--hydrogen is said to be the second most common material on earth.
    I think the possibility of a dark horse coming to replace the EV shouldn't be discounted and should even be encouraged.
    If you research cars at the turn of the early 20th century, internal combustion cars were once neck and neck with electrics but once the self starter made it easier to start without breaking your arm, ICE cars walked away from electrics.
    Where is the development money going to come from? Well, Stellantis is facing $300 million in fines for lying about diesels (using the same style trick software VW used earlier.) I say those fine monies should go into research into alternatives to EVs. The irony could be that the lying automakers of ICE cars could pay for an alternative to ICE cars without all the drawbacks of EVs.
     
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    Yep, invention of the self-starter definitely did in both electrics and also steam cars, which had a decent representation in the beginning.

    Hydrogen is probably the 21st Century dark horse contender. However, handling hydrogen (to prevent escape) is very hardware cost intensive.
     
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    Everyone I know that has a Tesla also has at least two other 'regular' vehicles,
    MOST own an SUV and a Pickup such as an F-150 or a Dodge Ram....
    And most of those folks use their Tesla ONLY to go back and forth from work,
    and NOT as a DD, ie they usually don't go out to eat in them, or shopping....
     
  4. SonomaRik

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    Please. You build it they will come. Humans can be much smarter than this. Deal with the fact that EV tech will be IT!. I've said it for years we'll have our cars in parades where the grand children will ask "what's that".

    Even Ferrari is transitioning. Geesch.
     
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    This is a big move away from fossil fuels that is not well planned. Human's may be smart enough to design it, implementing and underestimating the impact of building infrastructure is the problem. I will lay money on the fact that we will see major backtracking on the EV mandates across the globe.
     
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    Greta will grow very old and GM will go out of business waiting for this to happen :eek:
     
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    We will all be dead before EV is 'IT'.
     

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