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  1. Sturm59

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    Excuse me for being so direct in my words but I really have the impression that we are going back to 2015 or 2016 when prices were getting completely stupid and ridiculous and everyone was trying to "pluck the pigeon" or to "shear the sheep".... (French expressions, I don't know if you use the same expressions in the USA :D)
     
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    #528 Sturm59, Dec 18, 2022
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    Excuse me but your clutch pedal is not conform

    Attached is a picture from the original OEM pedal. Quite different, no?
     

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    #530 Sturm59, Dec 18, 2022
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    Don't be offended but I think they modified a brake pedal, it's not an OEM clutch pedal for 599, excuse me once again.

    Attached is the picture from a factory manual gated 599 and the rear side from an OEM clutch pedal. You can easily see your pedal is not OK
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    @Qksilver Another question: Did Exoticars change the transmission shaft between the engine and the gearbox? Also the aluminum protection plate above this axis? Everything is different at this level between the F1 and manual 599
     

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    @Qksilver In my opinion, your clutch pedal is a brake pedal that has been modified by Exoticars. I am attaching a photo of the back of a brake pedal. You can easily see it's the same.
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    @Qksilver And looking at your carbone central console, there is a detail that also makes me doubt that it is OEM...

    I'm attaching a picture from an OEM carbone central console
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    #535 Sturm59, Dec 18, 2022
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    ZFFFC60A870151595 is also non-100% compliant with original manual gated 599

    Picture 1: s/n 151595 carbone console non compliant or not OEM
    Picture 2: OEM carbone console
    Picture 3: #151595 clutch pedal non compliant or not OEM
    Picture 4: OEM clutch pedal

    You can easily see the difference between customized parts and OEM parts.

    So you can say what you want to prove these cars were converted with 100% OEM parts, it's not true!!

    And I wonder if the other parts are OEM if these are not... For exemple shaft between engine and gearbox changed? And so on...

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    And I'm 99.99999% sure that even the stainless steel grill is also a copy.
     
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    #537 Sturm59, Dec 18, 2022
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    Have a look at my posts why # 151595 can't never be eligible because not 100% OEM parts but a lot of customized parts non OEM. It's just my opinion....:D And # 163812 as well.
     
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  13. G55amg

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    BTW I never claimed that my car is 100% OEM conversion.
    I do claim the car is even more amazing now than before. And there is no issue with noises and vibrations
     
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  14. G55amg

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    Unless the car left Maranello as a manual, it will never be an original manual car.
    But my car is pretty close and I love it.
     
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    This is not what you wrote in your ad: "This 599 GTB Fiorano now features an OEM six-speed manual gearbox conversion" , then what is it OEM and what is not? Would be great to know for a potential buyer.....

    My conversion was done with 99% original parts (I have all the invoices from Ferrari, there are 5 pages with parts). But 2 parts were already unavailable at Ferrari factory stock in 2016: the clutch pedal and the lower center console. Only these 2 parts have been copied after the original ones. ECU have been sent to factory to be reprogrammed. I also didn't have any noises or vibrations with OEM parts.

    But I agree with what you say: the manual is more pleasant (for me) than the F1
     
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    Correct, even with 99.5% OEM parts and a conversion done by an official Ferrari workshop in Germany with type approval (F141 ABM), the factory never wanted to recognize my car. The guy, who bought it from me, writes now in his ad "approved by Ferrari" but it's not correct, and we have to be honest. The only advantage of my ex-giallo is that I have absolutely all the invoices for the original parts and Ferrari labor.

    https://www.autotrader.nl/auto/voertuig/x/5e28d5c7-0f74-4bf4-b2e4-62bc0cc3c76c/
     
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    This isn't an educated guess or the likes, but confirmed first hand information... Also 187007 is not red!
     
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    #164298 Correct console BUT non correct grid
     
  19. G55amg

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    I’m sorry but it does not say 100%
    99% is not 100%
     
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    #546 Sturm59, Dec 18, 2022
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    Yes, you are right and I agree. Only 2 parts (from 5 pages full of OEM parts) are not OEM because out of stock already in 2016 : clutch pedal (copied after an original one but mine is not OEM) and leather central console (the one under the carbone console).
     
  21. G55amg

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    You are right, your previous car is a beautiful car,and I agree, I recommend to say OEM Like conversion but that got removed.
    But when I was ask I was honest about what is OEM and what is not.
    So I am agreeing with you 100%
     
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    It makes me more satisfied to read this.
    If you want, I have the complete list of OEM parts with part numbers. You can compare with your parts if you are interested....
     
  23. G55amg

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    Please do
     
  24. Sturm59

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    Sent per PM

    Sorry, there are not 5 pages but only 4:D
     
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